| ▲ | xnx 5 hours ago |
| TIL MongoDB is a publicly traded company. I can't imagine the future is bright for MongoDB as AI makes it much less painful to move off of legacy and/or overpriced software. |
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| ▲ | joshstrange 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > AI makes it much less painful to move off of legacy and/or overpriced software. Agreed. While DynamoDB != MongoDB, they are similar. I built a product on DynamoDB (Single-table-design) and while it was cool to find a way to make relational data work in DynamoDB, it was always a chore. New feature development was a huge PITA as was changing schema in any way. Sure, I might have been "holding it wrong" but after a weekend with Claude I migrated everything to Postgres and have been incredibly happy with that change something like 4-6 months later. |
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| ▲ | Thaxll 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | DynamoDB is very expensive. | |
| ▲ | maerF0x0 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | DocumentDB more or less is MongoDB though | |
| ▲ | richwater 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | DynamoDB is really a fantastic product for the 99% percentile of workloads that need a particular kind of super low latency read operation at large scale. The simplicity of using it and the lack of operations is really why most people tend to reach for it over a relational option, although over the years the burden of managing an RDMS has consistently gone down. | | |
| ▲ | joshstrange 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | If your access patterns are fixed and not going to change, if your schema is pretty much solidified, then yes, I don't doubt that at all. But few things I've worked on have had such stable access patterns or schemas that they would benefit. I enjoyed solving the challenges around using DynamoDB way more than I enjoyed using it on an ongoing basis. |
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| ▲ | Hasz 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Oracle is still making a very, very healthy amount of money on legacy db products. Momentum is a very powerful thing. |
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| ▲ | jjice 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We're early on in the LLM era, so I have hope that it can crush Oracle's business model. That said, your database is probably the hardest part of your application to migrate off of... | | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > your database is probably the hardest part of your application to migrate off of Oracle has understood this for a long time. RDMBS have seen many generations of application tech stacks rise and fall. Other than C and unix they have outlasted almost everything. | |
| ▲ | lenerdenator 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I was thinking maybe investigations and prison time should crush Oracle's business model. They bought Cerner early in the decade and have whittled it down to absolutely nothing. This is a problem when the software that Cerner sold was EMRs and I have people who used to work there telling me that the perioperative and anesthesia suites now have one person working on them, and no one's fixing issues. | |
| ▲ | esseph 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > We're early on in the LLM era, so I have hope that it can crush Oracle's business model. They're a hypercloud provider now. It may be awhile. | | |
| ▲ | senderista 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Oracle seems to be doing their best to expedite their own crushing. I wish them success. | | |
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| ▲ | vanuatu 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | don't look at the oracle stock price over the last year though | | |
| ▲ | Hasz 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This is mostly an artifact of their bonkers hyperscaler build up. The growth in their RDBMS has got to be 0 or negative, but existing customers are locked in tight imo. | |
| ▲ | bel8 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | $322 to $130. ouch |
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| ▲ | dgellow 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Don’t look at oracle’s debts |
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| ▲ | saghm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I worked there from around a year before the IPO until around three and a half years after. The IPO price was around $24 if I remember correctly, but it's been floating in the $300-450 range for a while now. I have no clue what the future holds for it, but the IPO clearly did what it was intended to do. |
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| ▲ | nemo44x 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Mongo’s biggest sell was it increases developer productivity so backlogs were burned down faster and managers all benefited. AI greatly removes that differentiator. AI doesn’t care if it needs schemas or if there’s an idiomatic driver for Python or Node. Even schema changes aren’t an issue and most databases support complex data anyways. |
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| ▲ | glimshe 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| At this point I'd rather use a Claude-written database system than use MongoDB at any price. |
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| ▲ | otabdeveloper4 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | MongoDB is the only open-source database that supports multi-master high-availability out of the box. | | |
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| ▲ | trgn 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| i think infra software will be just fine. ai isnt going to implement a saas-database. and why would anybody migrate of mongodb, just to put their business data elsewhere? it's end user software that's absolutely getting crushed. |
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