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▲ Root_Denied 2 hours ago

Banking/Finance is the one industry I've seen push back against this type of thinking. Transactions must be handled in a perfect and repeatable way, or the system is unusable as far as the company is concerned.

There's definitely still AI/LLM integration happening, but is kept out of specific areas of the business.

▲ryandrake an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Same with aviation and safety. I honestly believe all programmers should, early in their careers, do a brief "tour of duty" in an industry where the stakes are high and "good enough" isn't good enough. You might not choose to make it your entire career, but at least you're exposed to the discipline, however briefly. Most software developers today have never in their lives worked on a project where defects were taken seriously and where there was process and documentation designed to reduce their occurrence.

▲Defletter 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

To be fair, I'm inclined to believe that most of this pressure to lean (if not rely) on LLMs is not coming from programmers, but rather from middle and upper management: banks are resisting this not because their programmers are holding some kind of line, but because management is not giving-in to the LLM siren call. So that tour of duty, while a good idea, would be more about teaching management skills than anything else.

The normalisation of inexplicable failures is, in my opinion, the consequence of programmers being unable to refuse their managers who have fallen for the LLM siren call, lest they lose their jobs.

▲geraneum 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the failures matter in non-sensitive environments as well albeit with a different threshold.

If you randomly screw up customer orders (think of DoorDash or an online shop or Airbnb). They lose trust in you and you lose your business to the competition. Going happy go lucky and being irresponsible in the business can bankrupt most* businesses.

* well, of course except the criminal empires which are bailed out by our tax money.

▲torben-friis an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I've been seeing the very opposite. Fintech companies treating design of financial systems with the casualness of a frontend aesthetic change. And tons of business people integrating their vibecoded POCs with financially sensitive data sources.