Yeah, this hasn't been a problem since forever (or at least I haven't noticed). They had to break the undo file format a while ago to actually work correctly for byte-level buffer change events (very important for tree sitter and other plugins listening for buffer changes). The undo file format is versioned, too, so it's not just YOLO'd; Neovim has since forever returned an error saying there's a version incompatibility. The outrage here doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

The original author of this post (on Mastodon) appears to have a bone to pick with Neovim since it's "platforming white supremacists"? I couldn't figure out what this meant. Some sort of internet drama I guess.

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mikestew 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The “drama” was linked in TFA:

https://github.com/neovim/neovim.github.io/issues/501

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oefrha an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Feels like opal drama all over again, more than a decade later. Why is the ruby community so uniquely toxic, whichever side you’re on. (Yes I’m aware neovim isn’t a ruby community, but the drama is once again centered on a ruby personality.)

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tmp_throwaway_q 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Gotta be honest, this seems like making a mountain out of a molehill. Yeah, DHH is an awful person. His endorsement was removed from the page pretty quickly, but of course not fast enough to avoid the social media mob handing down their verdict upon the thankless maintainers. I sympathize with the Neovim developer in that thread, the driveby Github commenters with seemingly no other involvement in the project are some of the least well-socialized people alive.

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manvillej an hour ago | parent [-]

To be fair, it’s not hard to say “white supremacy is bad and I’m not cool with it”

It took me only 10 seconds to write.

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		It's also hard to stay cool and agree with the mob dogpiling you over (tbh) a triviality. Anyone who's had to have difficult conversations in the real world knows that. I'm not going to expect people to respond in the best way to such things (easy to project this expectation when you're an anonymous name in the crowd, though).

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wongarsu an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

tl;dr: the website showed the quote “Full-screen Neovim looks cool as hell!” by some programmer with political views. After initial pushback it eventually got removed

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elektronika an hour ago | parent [-]

> programmer with political views

It's dishonest to downplay what his "political views" entail. He compared the removal of minorities to pest extermination.

> When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them.

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wongarsu 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

In my view the core of the "drama" is about whether quoting an unpolitical statement of a person endorses the person as a whole, including their political views.

The maintainer who originally responded to the github issue clearly thinks that it does not. The reporter and Twitter mob think that it does

Whether we disagree with his political views (I hope so) and how political a project like neovim is would be questions to answer once agreement on the first question is reached

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s1artibartfast an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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		The people who say that he is racist or fascist don’t believe that immigration can be illegal. That is, they believe that all migration should be allowed all of the time, and that successful countries should not be allowed to keep people out.

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bibimsz 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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