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▲ sdcfgy 2 hours ago

I've used vim since the first time it appeared in Debian repos. I have been told a thousand times that NeoVim is better, more modern and solves many (conveniently never cited) issues. I just ignored it and carried on. Feeling terribly vindicated at this point as it's a feature I use regularly and have no idea that it would be an issue in NeoVim.

▲kps an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I've used vi and nvi and (now) vim, and tried neovim, but :! is broken and “Conform to POSIX vi” is one of their “Non-goals”.

▲mahboi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've never used NeoVim because Vim has been good enough.

▲WesolyKubeczek 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I used neovim because it felt way faster by default. I think treesitter runs circles around what classic vim is using to highlight syntax. That said, I never used both beyond basics, thus no horror stories either.

▲sdcfgy 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I haven't noticed any performance issues in vim to start with. It was fast on a 75MHz pentium for me. The syntax highlighting, same. No issues. I don't always use that though because I can't be bothered to set up anything much past the basic config.

▲flohofwoe an hour ago | parent | next [-]

IIRC vim became really slow with the combination of large source files (thousands of lines of code) and language server plugins (e.g. code completion and live error squiggles).

▲sdcfgy an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I had a C program that was a single file 140,000 lines long back then. No issues.

▲WesolyKubeczek an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I was using vim-enhanced as red hat-based distro installed it. No customization. No customization of nvim either.

I often use vim or nvim on disposable machines, so persistent undo is something very low on my list of things I want.

▲everforward an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

At one point vim lacked asynchronous plugins. If a plugin was running a builder or linter it locked the editor up (from what I recall).

That fell apart when people wanted vim to do some more modern IDE kind of things like all the “… on save” stuff (build on save, test, lint, etc). I think LSP support is native in neovim as well.

I believe vim merged asynchronous plugin support a while back though, so I’m not sure how different they really are anymore.

▲sdcfgy an hour ago | parent [-]

That seems like solving the wrong problem.

Just run make from another terminal...

▲loeg an hour ago | parent [-]

It was a real problem, but as GP already mentioned, Vim has integrated some version of it since Vim 8 (2016), probably at least somewhat motivated by NeoVim (forked 2014).

https://lwn.net/Articles/713114/

▲sdcfgy 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

I hadn't noticed.

▲na1026 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

[dead]

▲debo_ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

*vimdicated

▲alphabeta3r56 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If one really needs an undo in today's day and age, use git.

▲leobuskin an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It’s two different dimensions in this case. VCS doesn’t preserve your local history (in JetBrains’ terms) of changes (and it wasn’t meant to by design)

▲sdcfgy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't use git. I actually have something still using RCS.

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▲0xbadcafebee an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Someone didn't read the part about wanting a humane interface