Article is about the impact of social media pile-ons (and has been getting praise within tech) so it is within scope for HN.

dualvariable 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I started to notice a bit over a decade ago (about the same time as Cersei's walk of shame on GoT) that millennials as a generation were piling into naming and shaming people publicly as blindly appropriate punishment, without any consideration of what could go wrong and considering it their right and entitlement to do that. Any time a public figure gets into any kind of trouble, people demand to know all the details so they can satisfy their need to express outrage. It really is not healthy. Even if another person who was harmed comes out to express that they are satisfied with the outcome and the process that was followed, the crowd still wants to know all the details so they can feel angry.

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pjc50 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not sure this is unique to that generation. Tabloids have always been like that. It's just been "democratized" so anyone can start it.

Also I note that a lot of "legacy" pretexts for shaming are off the table. It's not done to shame people simply for being gay; that's now acceptable even in Conservative circles. So perhaps the total shame has just been redistributed, somewhat arbitrarily.

(And another thing: this has evolved shame resistant politicians just like antibiotic overuse evolved MRSA)

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randycupertino an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I think it's their frustration of other things they can't control - climate change, K-shaped economy, PFAS in everything, no healthcare, 7% and rising mortgages for $1.5 million 1000 sq ft built in 1965 shitboxes, corruption by politicians, suppressed elections, pedophile rings operating carte blanche while law enforcement casts a blind eye, presidential pardons for sale to the rich, clawbacks of longstanding LGBTQ and women's rights... culture wars against trans people to distract from class inequality.... and on and on.

Well, I can't make much progress on or change those things so let me distract myself checking out this shitbird who won't help his wife or hold the baby while she gets some nachos. I can be outraged at him because it's small and tangible compared to being outraged at structural inequality of our current economic reality or the looming climate crisis.

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dualvariable 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I can see where it comes from, but it is still highly dysfunctional, and a lot of millennials will use those arguments to defend that behavior.

I think it needs to be called out as being bad, and deconstructed properly, and that outrage needs to get redirected back onto the structural issues.

Which is another argument--that when people behave badly because of structural issues, that isn't an excuse.

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shigawire 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree. If you feel previous social systems of justice and fairness have eroded, the only outlet that seems reasonable is "democratic" mob action.

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anon291 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

for our parents generation, mortgage rates were 10%+

	▲	dualvariable 29 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		And the mean house sale price was under $96k (which is still under $250k, adjusted for inflation). From roughly 1953 to 2000, the inflation-adjusted cost of the mean house was around $200k-$250k in today's dollars. Now it has nearly doubled, and mortgage rates are on the rise and headed back towards 10%.

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fhdkweig 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

TikTok threw up a big "login" popup that I couldn't skip, so here is a youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUwQmrEFf7E

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ksymph 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Normally the comments on that video are something I could laugh along with, but reading them after the article is... sobering.

	▲	joe_the_user an hour ago \| parent [-]
		The interesting way is the way the pinned post primes people to attack without it being obvious. Basically, they use assumptive language - "is this just how it's always been. Modern marriage or traditional marriage?" assumes that this two minute clip shows this couple's entire relationship. And that kind of language to "get discussion going" is well know to those aiming for views.

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Quothling 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm Danish, but how is this terrible? I should show these people a video of my twins sleeping in a snow covered trolley outside the bar I was having a beer and a board game by the window at.

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Wistar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

When I first moved to Denmark, I marveled at the babies in unattended carriages parked outside the grocery stores.

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senderista 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You totally should do that, as long as you can't be doxxed. I would love to see the reactions from self-righteous Americans.

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pantulis 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The only terrible thing is the food they're having.

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throw93038383 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In Copenhagen I was strongly adviced not to leave my bicycle unlocked outside, for quick visit at a grocery store. Everyone I know takes their bikes home overnight.

	▲	heikkilevanto an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Living in Copenhagen, I do not recognize that. I live in a city apartment on Vesterbro. We have maybe a hundred bikes parked in the backyard, nobody I know brings his bike home for the night, unless it is a really fancy racing bike. But yes, I do lock my bike when ever I really away from it.

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Rzor 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Those comments are pure vitriol juice, my god, and they just keep coming from all angles as to why that dude is an absolutely piece of shit on very little data. Incredible stuff, and a good lesson right there.

	▲	mahboi 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Probably from unmarried people anyway