| ▲ | Fakecloud: Local AWS cloud emulator for integration tests(fakecloud.dev) |
| 48 points by theanonymousone a day ago | 28 comments |
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| ▲ | otterley 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| There’s also MiniStack, which forked from LocalStack after they started breaking developer workflows: https://ministack.org/ Both fakecloud and its website look sloppily vibe-coded, and its “authors” are anonymous. It’s going to take a while for it to earn trust. I’d treat it with suspicion. (Curl-to-shell pipe to install? Ugh.) |
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| ▲ | straygarr 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Agreed with everything up to: "curl-to-shell pipe to install" - what's the problem here? that's pretty common on linux systems and something the AWS CLI uses. Or is the problem the fact that this dev is untrusted and is executing a possibly malicious script on your machine? | | |
| ▲ | jasongi an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | For a mock server? Surely a versioned, standalone executable, library/package or docker image makes more sense. Integration tests generally need to be portable and running on CI, you don't wanna be shell-piping whatever exists in the moment. | |
| ▲ | MisterMunchkin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Running arbitrary code directly in your terminal is very dangerous | | |
| ▲ | luma 29 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Any code I didn't write is arbitrary code. At some point I'm left to trust someone or run no software at all. | | |
| ▲ | mulmen 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It’s a shell script. You can download and read it before you run it. Piping it directly to the shell is reckless. I’m not sure how your machine is configured but mine has permission boundaries and security policies that make sure programs are behaving properly. I don’t run everything with my personal user context. |
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| ▲ | sdcfgy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm worried that this behaviour has to be defended. | |
| ▲ | x3n0ph3n3 5 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | curl-to-shell is a terrible installation mechanism, because it's not easily reversible and I can't tell if any of the assets are signed, or integrity checked, or not. |
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| ▲ | tingletech an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > and its “authors” are anonymous. The blog posts are all attributed to "Lucas Vieira" and the dev group https://faisca.dev that is attributed as the author has 2 other projects. Lucas comes up in LinkedIn and looks like an actual person working in San Francisco. Re: curl; this seems to work: cargo install fakecloud
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| ▲ | shermantanktop an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There are so many of these, but none of them simulate the surprise-billing experience. |
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| ▲ | jeduardo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There is also localemu, which I understand to be another localstack fork: https://localemu.cloud/ |
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| ▲ | gyre007 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I kinda like most of these emulators but why is there none targeting GCP/Azure |
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| ▲ | figmert 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | AWS is still way ahead in cloud usage, that's probably why AWS is the primary target. Anyway, floci has GCP and Azure versions, how mature they are, I'm unsure. But it does exist. | | | |
| ▲ | tombuildsstuff 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm launching something in that space this week - if you're interested in trying one of those out, feel free drop me a message via my website (in bio) :) | |
| ▲ | Hikikomori an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Hard to replicate all the bugs in azure. | |
| ▲ | nullbio 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Agreed. Azure would be nice. Something that can work with Terraform too. | | |
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| ▲ | bilekas 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There are always nice, but there are a lot of scaffolding work involved with larger systems. It would be nice to be able to provide for example the terraform of the infrastructure and let these tool create their own. Might be a nice feature to add because I haven't seen it done yet. |
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| ▲ | igetspam 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I use tf with floci and floci-gcp, weekly… | | |
| ▲ | _joel 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Oh nice, not aware of this. We're opentofu on GCP, so could be a good addition to ci |
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| ▲ | igetspam 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| But how does it compare to floci, which already picked up with localstack left off? |
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| ▲ | Lucasoato 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I always welcome warmly projects like these, the only problem is that unless there’s a strong community behind, founders tend to build companies around them, raise capital, then put useful functionalities behind paywalls (see localstack). When I see that, it always reminds me of Steve Jobs’s quote: ”It’s not a product, it’s a feature”. Aren’t cloud companies like AWS, Azure, GCP the first to be interested in providing their users a meaningful way to do test integrations of their products? Shouldn’t they provide them in the first place? |
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| ▲ | igetspam an hour ago | parent [-] | | You’d think that but it doesn’t seem to be the case. I do a lot of offline development and the only way it used to be possible was localstack but that’s AWS only. The open source community is the only interested party, it seems. Thankfully, there’s a lot of contribution happening in this space. Because I have need, I make a lot of my own contributions. I’m doing full stack cloud development against GCP without ever leaving my device. |
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