> Tell me about the different OSes each of Samsung, Huawei, Tencent MyApp, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Honor etc. run then that we can choose from.

Other companies using Google's incredible R&D spend and selling phones that use it is not Google's failing.

And we're talking app stores. They all have app stores disconnected from Google's app store.

> It's like saying Windows doesn't have a monopoly in the PC space because HP, Dell, Lenovo, ASUS.

No, on two counts. One: - and it's the same with Android - Apple exists, and so there's definitely not a monopoly from a lowercase personal computing perspective. Two: the conversation is about app stores. There are many app stores. It's like saying Microsoft doesn't have a PC hardware monopoly because HP, Dell, Lenovo, ASUS.

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margalabargala 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Other companies using Google's incredible R&D spend and selling phones that use it is not Google's failing

On the contrary. I disagree.

It's possible to build something so successful and difficult that it rises to the level of public utility.

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philipallstar 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Why not say that Samsung's phone manufacturing is a public utility? That's successful and difficult.

	▲	margalabargala 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Samsung is, as pointed out elsewhere in the thread, one among many. Like Dell. It's different in kind, not in degree. If you make that comparison you clearly don't understand the point being brought up by others here. Which is fine. I'm not going to convince you, I'm just informing you how I'll be voting.

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Matl 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> They all have app stores disconnected from Google's app store

No they don't. Certainly not ones where my bank app or Netflix is. This is being obtuse on purpose.

	▲	philipallstar 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> No they don't. Yes. They do. > Certainly not ones where my bank app or Netflix is. Blaming Google for this is just insanity. > This is being obtuse on purpose. Agreed.