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▲ ck2 13 hours ago

when China finally cracks EUV we might be able to afford PC parts again?

oddly cheering for this but I doubt it will end well

* https://www.reuters.com/world/china/how-china-built-its-manh...

▲comboy 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They are not cracking EUV, they are finding ways that actually scale. Chips can be much cheaper than they are currently. I mean yes, obviously we cannot be confident ntil it happens, but they are already making 5nm with DUV.

When China leads chip making the rest of the world is just vasal states.

▲Numerlor 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Going to higher densities with DUV needs high multi patterning which is very inefficient and ends up costing more than if they could do EUV with fewer patterns.

It's well known tech that is used globally, just not to that degree as yield and throughput goes way down

▲52khz 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲vachina 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes it will not end well because Amurica will put a crater in the middle of the fab if it ever becomes viable.

▲sho 11 hours ago | parent [-]

America will 100% not do that, unless they want matching craters in all of their fabs, or worse, in Taiwan’s.

▲vachina 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Of course Amurica will not do it themselves, Amurica will outsource the job to someone else.

▲ck2 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

lol China wouldn't bother bombing anyone

they'd just tell all their export ships to turn around and stop all exports

US would collapse in 30 days

it would be like the blockade US is doing to Cuba except 90% of every product we use and they wouldn't have to fire a single shot

they could also sell off the billions in US bonds and other assets

US economy would be utterly destroyed, we'd never recover because even the middle-class would be living out of their cars (now dead because all the parts for them are made in China)