Remix.run Logo
▲ matsemann 12 hours ago

I don't mind using an LLM while programming. At least the way I use it, I still feel like my experience, knowledge and taste is being utilized to make it better than if I were to vibe it.

What has made me enjoy it less, is having to deal with colleagues' use of it. Sorry to say, but I don't enjoy talking to meat proxies, or getting huge PRs that solve the wrong problem. It's like half the people have turned off their brain. We produce faster, but we don't produce the right stuff.

▲lolakutty 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> We produce faster, but we don't produce the right stuff.

Same here...

We commit bad decision, then in the next PR, workaround the bad decision (instead of undoing it), then in the next PR we have to workaround (aka deal with) the initial bad decision + work around...so on and so forth...

And at any point, manually reviewing the changes becomes impossible because you have to reason about the changes keeping all the workarounds and special cases in your mind...

▲Terr_ 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

> workaround the bad decision (instead of undoing it)

I'm convinced that LLM-generated comments accelerate this problem, because they embed twists that a human didn't choose, and then those affect what gets generated next.

Much the same way LLM-characters don't do so well at answering "I don't know", there's a problem of them failing to cull context.

▲RunSet 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> At least the way I use it, I still feel like my experience, knowledge and taste is being utilized to make it better than if I were to vibe it.

> What has made me enjoy it less, is having to deal with colleagues' use of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_effect

▲matsemann 3 hours ago | parent [-]

No, it's not a bias. If I vet every line of code still, but my coworker ships thousands of lines they don't understand, we're actually using it differently.

▲ 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]
[deleted]
▲joegibbs 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah same here. I feel like I’ve been promoted and not get to manage my own very efficient team that needs a lot of micromanaging. I’ve seen what other people have made without any experience, but I personally feel like I can get my vision done much, much faster, and like I’m not so encumbered by how long it might take to implement some small feature.

In fairness though I never really enjoyed programming for the sake of it, I was always about what you’re getting at the end.

▲bluefirebrand 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> I feel like I’ve been promoted

The correct response to "I feel I have been promoted (without a corresponding title or pay change)" is to be pissed off, not excited

▲tome 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Why would you want to be pissed off when you could be excited?

▲bluefirebrand 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Excitement is for when good things happen.

A promotion is only a good thing if you actually benefit from it

▲na1026 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It's like half the people have turned off their brain.

LLMs are for people who want to turn off their brain. If you want your team to improve, you should lead by example and stop using LLMs. You need to create an environment where it is unacceptable to turn off your brain. Your underlings will never use LLM tools the way you want them to. LLM tools are designed to be used the way your underlings use them.