Remix.run Logo
▲ fn-mote 3 hours ago

> Brute forcing every move, no matter how stupid, is a great strategy

Meh. I really disagree. WHY is it a great strategy? Seems like an inefficient waste of resources and time to me.

▲stratos123 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As the saying goes, "if it works, it ain't stupid". Or phrased more sophisticatedly: not doing things which probably won't work is a good idea if you have a limited amount of thinking to do (which is usually the case for a human, who'll get exhausted chasing down unlikely leads). If you have no good leads and a task you absolutely need done and you are tireless, however, bashing your head against every wall you find becomes a good strategy.

▲ 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]
[deleted]
▲bionhoward 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Brute force is guaranteed to eventually find the most efficient possible solution (in an extremely inefficient manner, assuming you run it long enough)

▲hardaker 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've never liked the concept either. Except the bugs that fuzzing has found has proven me wrong. This is just the next level of fuzzing.

▲solarkraft 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The models tend to not be rewarded for not doing that.

▲williamdclt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> WHY is it a great strategy

because it works? That's the only real benchmark at the end of the day

> Seems like an inefficient waste of resources and time to me.

why? For any given goal you got no proof that a more efficient strategy even exists, let alone that it can be found with less resources & time

▲senderista 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Reminds me of the Nazis mocking Soviet human wave attacks and bragging about their superior kill ratio.

▲QuercusMax 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Models don't have a sense of time, and wasting resources (token spend) is something that it's not clear they're optimized against

▲memonkey 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, probably not the best strategy but it is a strategy. I just think this is generally how most wars in history won. Biggest army to just pummel the enemy.

▲Forgeties79 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And how many economies have buckled under massive military expenditure? The USSR sure wasn’t enjoying the expense.