> Either way I do not understand european politicians refusing to build up a nuclear arsenal for all members in the EU. That makes no sense

I am not sure if you are trolling. Producing nukes takes time, even with advanced industrial economy like EU, it would take a few months to develop and test nukes. And I would not trust country like Hungary with nukes!

Much more effective is to manufacture weapons. Soon EU will double its tank production to 5 dozens a year!

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lostlogin 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> I would not trust country like Hungary with nukes!

Recent German, French and Italian elections are a cause for concern too.

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rebuilder 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

A few months? Really? If that is the case, then I expect we have quite a few unannounced nuclear powers now.

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throw930393930e 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Other countries do not not have advanced industrial economy like EU!

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rebuilder 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

The EU is not a country

	▲	throw930393930e 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I never said EU is a country, it is group of countries with advanced industrial economy and super weapons! And we can produce several dozens tanks a year! Soon we will even produce air defense missiles!

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libertine 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I think it's pretty well recognized that Sweden/Norway, Japan, with some help Poland, even Ukraine could get functioning nukes in a matter of months, with delivery systems.

Look at Saudi Arabia, suddenly they found Uranium deposits just a week ago: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/saudi-arabia-discove...

You don't have unannounced nuclear powers now because despite what's being propagandized for the last 5 years, the rules base world order functioned, and brought stability, despite it's flaws - it wasn't perfect, but there was an effort to abide by treaties and international law.

It's was the product of WW2, and to some extent, the Cold War.

Just because you have waves of bots saying it was bad, you haven't seen yet anyone saying how the "Multipolar world order" is going to be better.

There's no project other than autocracies surviving by oppressing neighbors freely by decree.

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throw930393930e 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

Ukraine could absolutely get functional nukes in a few months. Dirty nukes in days (it has atomic reactor). It also has rocket manufacturing and functional delivery systems.

Nuclear threats from Zelensky were one of the reasons Russia invaded Ukraine!

	▲	libertine 11 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I had to Google that claim, and apparently you're talking about one of the Russian disinformation campaign before the second invasion of Ukraine in 2022? https://raskrinkavanje.ba/en/analysis/ukraine-did-not-try-to...