> 100% rely on

that's the mobster-loyalty mentality, and it's not how successful (read: desirable for the most people) governments function

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p-e-w 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Every government on Earth has legislation that allows it to force companies (and citizens) to do its bidding under certain circumstances. That’s pretty much the definition of a government.

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pixl97 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The point is this not being the first tool in the toolbox. Other competitors have shown they are more than willing to build weapons of death (OpenAI) so as the government you put them as the preferred contractor.

What the orange turd is going is rather petty bullshit in a market where many options exist.

	▲	cindyllm 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
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all_factz 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Then the government should have invoked that legislation.

	▲	CodeWriter23 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The DoD is empowered to determine its own supply chain risks by...wait for it...legislation.
	▲	HarHarVeryFunny 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		They don't need to - there are alternatives, and do you really want to do business with a supplier that is hostile to your needs unless you have to?

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lukewarm707 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

yes, but anthropic really is an exception.

it is a bizarre company which also inherits the authoritarian infrastructure of cloud services.

that is: remote control of the software, spying on customers, etc.

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orangecat 2 hours ago | parent [-]

remote control of the software, spying on customers, etc.

The military ran Anthropic models on their own infrastructure; Anthropic had no access to it. "They might disable Claude in the middle of an emergency" was never a possibility.

	▲	lukewarm707 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		DOD used claude via palantir. palantir runs on AWS, supposedly DOD IL6. anthropic did a prigozhin, got cocky and went behind the DOD's back to palantir and asked them questions about the use of claude. a big tyrant does not like to be usurped or undermined by a little tyrant. after pissing off the DOD by trying to get palantir to rat out classified deployments, dario went to the pentagon and behaved like himself in front of pete hegseth. anthropic was not going to come back from that. fable is on AWS govcloud. but anthropic get the chat logs. specifically section F: [https://www.anthropic.com/legal/service-specific-terms]. this is an anthropic requirement. notably, fable is not on IL5 or above. the best you can get is palantir AIP opus 5 in AWS IL5. i suspect, because of anthropic demanding that AWS rat out its customers.