| ▲ | yomismoaqui 2 days ago |
| And yet, more USians move to my "poor" country than the other way around. Make of that what you will. |
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| ▲ | PorciiVorbesc 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| >more USians move to my "poor" country than the other way around. Retirees and people who already made money to outbid the locals on housing and purchasing power. Why would they move to a more expensive country where they'd feel poor? |
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| ▲ | yomismoaqui a day ago | parent [-] | | Emigrating is not an easy task (even with money), think why they do it and why the don't want to live on the country they were born. Think about it... a hint, it's not about money. | | |
| ▲ | PorciiVorbesc a day ago | parent [-] | | Emigrating is super easy when you have a lot of money and a strong passport. Money solves most problems that are not related to the soul. By comparison, try emigrating as a poor person from a poor country with a weak passport. Americans are playing life on easy mode but they complain the most. |
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| ▲ | TMWNN 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That well-paid Americans like to WFH on Malaga beaches is not a testament to the Spanish economy, but to its weather and (more importantly) low cost of living. In any case, don't be too sure about your claim. According to <https://ourworldindata.org/where-do-migrants-live-and-where-...>, 170K Spanish-born live in the US. By contrast, 69K US-born live in Spain <https://ourworldindata.org/where-do-migrants-live-and-where-...>. Given that the US (341 million) has 7.25 times Spain's population (47 million), this means that a Spaniard is 17-18 times more likely to move to the US, than an American is to move to Spain. |
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| ▲ | ar0 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | This is… a mathematically correct but practically useless way to compare migration flows. Using this approach, Singaporeans are more likely to move to China than Chinese to move to Singapore. Mathematically true, and tells us much about the relative sizes of these two countries, but very, very little about relative attractiveness as a place of living. | | |
| ▲ | TMWNN a day ago | parent [-] | | >Using this approach, Singaporeans are more likely to move to China than Chinese to move to Singapore. Using the Our World in Data figures, a Singapore-born person is about four times more likely to move to China than a China-born person is to move to Singapore. That does not seem like an unreasonable ratio, given that a) Chinese are not nearly as free, whether economically or politically, to emigrate, b) those Chinese who have the money and connections to leave are likely going to be in the large cities that offer good living standards, and c) China is going to have, from sheer size, aspects that will appeal to Singaporeans regardless of per-capita economic disparity. Put another way, if Chinese were as free to move around the world as Singaporeans, there would surely be many more China-born people in Singapore ... perhaps four times as the current 530K. By contrast, the US and Spain are fairly comparable in terms of their citizens' freedom to move about, so that factor can be eliminated from the comparison. |
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| ▲ | yomismoaqui a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | And healthcare, better food, better public transport, security, human relations, lifespan... and above all, happiness. The american dream is dead, US is a country for working, not for living. | |
| ▲ | gib444 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Absolutely also a testament to escaping Trump too. I have met many all over Europe, all ages – UK, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, Ireland etc who mentioned it. Including many previously living in California, Florida, Colorado etc with a decent climate, who were earning very good money. Definitely a testament to each country too - presumably they have a fairly wide choice. They wouldn't go somewhere they disliked the culture that much. We know how discerning US folk are. |
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| ▲ | marky1991 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If we were to take all preceding arguments seriously, couldn't that be explained by americans going to live in a low-cost-of-living country once they've earned their living? (Don't know your country to know if that's true or not, but it's a possibility) |
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| ▲ | yomismoaqui a day ago | parent [-] | | Are you looking for money or are you looking for a good life? My country offers them both, people from lots of countries como here looking for money and also for a better way of living. The lesson explains itself. |
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| ▲ | pb7 a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The demonym is American, not whatever you wrote. Unless your poor country is New Zealand, that's not the case. |
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| ▲ | yomismoaqui a day ago | parent [-] | | Being pedantic America is the continent. So a chilean should be as "American" as Donald Trump. | | |
| ▲ | pb7 a day ago | parent [-] | | No, it isn't. Everyone knows exactly what "American" means and it's never a Chilean. | | |
| ▲ | gib444 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | You know English is defined by its usage right? If people start using a new term such as USAian, or American to refer to everyone from the continent...that's what will be. There is no central authority to tell us how to use English correctly. Anyway. New world order. USA hegemony is going way. I guess USAians are beginning to find out how we in the UK felt about the loss of our empire. |
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