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▲ Muromec an hour ago

Like all addictions it's about habits and you compete with multiple trillion-dollar companies to shape your habits for you. Luckily, you are closer to where decisions are actually being made.

So the measures, in no particular order, but vaguely resemblign an escalation ladder:

1. Get a shittier phone. Something worth 100 eurobucks from aliexpress working on a slow mtk soc, outdated android and all that

2. Disable all notification forever, also incoming call ringtone with a voice mail saying you will return the call tomorrow

3. Get a landline or equivalent land-line like voip phone on a table in a hallway. With a voice mail of course.

4. Start leaving the phone at home when you go for a short walk or somewhere in a shop.

5. When you do take it with you outside, put it in a banana bag under the jacket instead of your pocket and then leave it in the bag when you get back home.

6. obviously remove all of the dopamine junkie apps.

7. don't look at the mail, chats, news, whatever is there before lunch, specifically don't let it be the first thing getting your attention in the morning.

8. doing a prayer 5 times a day and going to mosque or whatever you have to counter balance the influence of shaitain sitting your pocket for the last 10 years.

9. allowing yourself to use junkie apps for a dopamine hit when you actually need it but deciding the time and trigger yourself (separate phone with instagrahm turned off most of the time, only scrolling it while you are outside in the park in a nice setting after having a juicy piece of junk food, icecream or whatever, etc).

▲lukan 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"outdated android and all that"

But then don't do anything money related with it or use any important account details.

▲Muromec 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

Well, that's the point. The actual money-controlling phone could be sitting in the drawer power off until you need to do something.

This also prevents spending too much money on impulsive purchases and take-away thai food when you should know better.

▲edoceo 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

I was with you all the way until: less Thai food.

▲Muromec 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

I did the numbers for the year 2025 and conclude that flying there will be cheaper, but then the orange monkey decided to do a short victorious war right in the hood of my favorite transit station to there.

▲rcMgD2BwE72F 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Get GrapheneOS. Install FOSS apps whenever possible, via Obtainium. Signal if need be. A RSS reader. No social networks. Get a Kagi subscription to ensure no ads and bias.

Voilà

▲Muromec 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

That targets a different thing IMO. You can aim for privacy or you can aim for the thing being slow and irritating to use to disrupt the habit. If tech companies spend money to make their apps smooth to use, you can aim for the opposite and inject friction and reduce the amount of high you get from it and making it slower to reach so you can have a chance to take back the executive control over the task.

▲alerighi 31 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Except it's impossible nowadays, since most apps require Google Play Integrity attestation and doesn't work on GrapheneOS.

And if it wasn't for these apps (for example banking apps, since someone decided that it's now impossible to use your homebanking from a PC since it's not secure enough) I would already use a Nokia 3310.

▲TFNA 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Loads of banking apps work fine on GrapheneOS, and the vast majority of non-banking apps require even less attestation and so work on GrapheneOS like on any other Android with Play Services present.

▲dwedge 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Harder, not impossible. I've only experienced one banking app that doesn't work (and I didn't try disabling the security for it). I have another AOSP without google services and it's a bit worse but half of the banking apps work. Uber doesn't.

Not sure where you live but in the EU I think you can ask for either SMS or hardware token verification for the bank website.

The most annoying thing for me is "magic links" apps send via email to login. I don't have email on my phone.

▲ElevenLathe 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

What is a "banana bag"? I only know it from the medical usage, and don't seem to be able to find anything about the phrase otherwise.

▲Muromec 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Random link from google, normally costs less than that: https://trakke.co.uk/collections/all-products-in-stock/produ...

▲ElevenLathe 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

For other speakers of Generic American, it apparently means fanny pack.