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Whats wild is the commercial side didn’t get closed. I understand the argument for individuals or households (I don’t love it - I’m on the wrong side of it, but at least it’s somewhat defensible), but if you’re running a business and your income isn’t keeping up with inflation, that’s called failing.

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999900000999 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And it will never be repealed.

Old voters like the house they brought 20 years ago for 100k being worth 1.5 million today. They also like not paying taxes on that 1.4m in wealth accumulation.

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gehsty 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is it not that the gains are unrealized? If they sold the house they would pay capital gains tax?

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binlog 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They aren't going to sell it, they'll pass it to their children and the cost basis will reset. Their children will then sell it and pay zero tax.

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Guvante 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Property taxes are unrelated to income tax

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fhn 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm not a finance person but I think capital gains kicks in if you sell early. Otherwise, just regular taxes?

	▲	Ancalagon 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		opposite, income taxes take place first. after a waiting period, its just capital gains. capital gains taxes are typically lower than income taxes so this encourage long term holding

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pc86 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think not wanting to pay some yearly tax on that $1.4 million because the government pretends that the same as having $1.4M cash in the bank, or making $1.4M in a year, is fine.

Not wanting to pay the property taxes associated with a $1.5M home is the problem.

	▲	tikhonj 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Which is why we also have things like a deferred property tax program! The way to "solve" the problems Prop 13 addresses would be to expand programs like that, but homeowners—disproportionately active middle- and upper-middle-class voters—want to have their cake and eat it too.
	▲	999900000999 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It wildly distorts the entire real estate market. Cool your home is worth 1.5 million. Your kids will never ever afford a home. Without prop 13 that house would probably only be worth 600k. What difference does it make if it functions as a home. Too late to fix it now.

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fhn 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

what reasonable persons wants to pay taxes? Just because you like to pay extra doesn't me we should.

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Ancalagon 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, I do too. Mine just happens to have been bought before the last inflationary cycle.

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mullingitover 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It drives me crazy that California voters will wave through every single regressive sales tax hike that is placed in front of them, yet they will crawl through broken glass to vote against a property tax hike on corporations.

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tomhow 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Please don't post snarky dismissals like this on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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yonran 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If the SEIU healthcare workers union is going to amend the state constitution, they should chip away at Proposition 13 instead of amending the constitution to make a bad tax that encourages capital flight.

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everybodyknows 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But neglects to consider why it won a majority of votes. Why did it? And how does Prop 13 relate to the more recent Prop 19, which substantially weakened it?

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guyzero 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But let's be clear: Prop 13 is bad and is holding down property taxes on both commercial and residential land.

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palmotea 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> News at 9.

The idiom is "film at 11."