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▲ WokeUp420 a day ago

The hybrid already gets 55mpg and the batteries are dirt cheap.

▲mcone 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Our 2026 hybrid gets 64mpg in Albuquerque. The last time I did the EROI calculation it beat everything by a long shot.

▲crimsontech 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Its actually cheaper (for me in the UK) to run a corolla hybrid than an EV as I don't have the ability to charge at home.

▲scottyah 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I really did think Toyota would have a nice market if they stuck to hybrids.

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▲RajuChacha108 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Corolla is sort of highly underrated engineering marvel.

▲throwitaway222 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not sure how you got one that gets 55mpg, mine gets 44 (47 was on the sticker). But in CA this still beats 100% EV.

▲klaff 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You really do have to do the math using your local costs. I'm in a place with slightly cheaper gas but much cheaper electricity than California. Combined with cheap night time electricity I'm paying under $0.03 per mile for a large EV. I would need 150 mpg vehicle (assuming $4.50 gas) to beat that. However I'm cheating a bit - I'm on a plan which raises my day time electric costs a small amount in exchange for half-price at night, so they're getting some of that back, and I should amortize charger and electrician work ($1600 for me).

▲justin66 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeesh. I get 44 mpg in a much heavier Toyota hybrid. But it probably depends on what percentage of your driving is in the city, vs highway.

▲dyauspitr 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

55mpg is nothing. I get 100+ mpg equivalent on my massive F-150 lightning and if you include cost in the comparison it’s probably a couple of multipliers more than that.

▲NewJazz 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And that's just operating cost. PHEVs have a higher maintenance cost and worse reliability than pure EVs, typically. Certainly higher complexity and more parts.

▲rootusrootus 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

On top of that, my Lightning was less expensive than the gas equivalent. I've been winning since day one. If I had to sell it today (that would make me so sad), the depreciation would be the lowest of any car I've ever owned.