| There can be foreign agents criticizing AI, but not all people criticizing AI are foreign agents. Trump is painting critics with a wide brush: "The people that say AI is going to destroy the World, and that Data Centers are bad for your neighborhood, are the same people that said, just a short time ago, that the World would be extinguished by “Climate Change.” That HOAX never worked out for them, and now they’re on to the next one. These people are Revolutionaries, but Revolutionaries for a Bad and Evil Cause. Soon you’ll find out they’re working for people that do not have the best interests of the United States in mind!" |
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| ▲ | 1shooner 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't trust the administration to use the law in good faith, but this article is misquoting the DoJ statement. The articles omits the very relevant qualifier: The article: > Last week, the Justice Department instructed “citizens and noncitizens” that anyone furthering the “goals” of a foreign power in “any public activity” — including even “public demonstrations” — must formally notify the government to avoid arrest and prosecution. The DoJ: >“If a person acts as an agent of any foreign power to carry out any public activity, including (but not limited to) public demonstrations designed to further the propaganda or other goals of the foreign power, he or she must register with or notify the appropriate federal authorities” | | |
| ▲ | overfeed 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | So the first amendment is suspended for individuals whose opinion/public activity - according to the administration - "furthers the goals of a foreign power". This rules out protesting any kind of war, tariffs, or even things the administration likes, like demonstrating in support of Israel. Obviously the plan is not to apply the rule evenly, its just an authoritarian lever to silence dissenting speech the government does not like. | | |
| ▲ | AnnikaL 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Would this not mean that if you oppose the Iran war because it's bad to kill civilians or you want gas prices to go down, that's OK - but if you oppose the Iran war because you're trying to help the Iranian government's foreign policy goals, that's acting as a foreign agent? (Similarly, demonstrating in support of Israel because you think the US-Israel alliance is good for the US vs. good for Israel.) | | |
| ▲ | freeone3000 an hour ago | parent [-] | | I guess that’s a defense you could claim to the judge, at the trial, after being arrested. |
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| ▲ | Starman_Jones 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The qualifier here is that the public demonstrations must further the propaganda of a foreign power? If so, that doesn’t seem to be much of an obstacle if the people making the arrest are the ones who decide whether or not a protest is furthering foreign propaganda. | |
| ▲ | ImPostingOnHN 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What exactly is the distinction you see there? | |
| ▲ | expedition32 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Reminds me of the Christ clowns who stand outside abortion clinics. The money is all traced back to America. |
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| ▲ | loeg 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > There can be foreign agents criticizing AI, but not all people criticizing AI are foreign agents. Right. The DoJ is demanding the former group register as foreign agents, as they are required to under FARA. | |
| ▲ | SmirkingRevenge 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > There can be foreign agents criticizing AI, but not all people criticizing AI are foreign agents. Indeed, and it's hard to disentangle exactly how much sentiment is driven by one vs the other. If we remember back to recent elections and the Russian influence campaigns to boost Trump, the same people were either denying that they happened or denying that they actually influenced anything. Interesting reversal now. Maybe they shouldn't have dismantled all the task forces and teams meant to study and combat disinformation. |
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