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whstl 4 hours ago

While this makes absolutely no sense to me, I'm pretty sure unhinged language fanatics would reject some resumes because "Java is not the first on the list".

HR people and AIs, as much as I criticise them: would not reject that.

shagie 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If I have 100 resumes, and 50 of them list Java first, and 50 of them list Java last, which pool of 50 am I most likely to find someone who knows and doesn't hate working in Java?

You're going to select 10 people out of that list of 100 because you don't have time to call everyone for three weeks to evaluate their skill.

You've also got only two hours to look through all 100 of those resumes today. You're spending about a minute and a half looking at each resume. How are you going to evaluate someone for a Java backend position who's last job was in C# and they list Java last in the list of languages they know?

whstl 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Okay, yeah, now I agree with you.

The last paragraph makes a great point: if the person has been out of Java the game for long, they will definitely be second to someone who's fresh out of a Java job.

And the reason is exactly as you say: limited time, excessive number of CVs. This completely changes the game.

johnnyanmac 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>which pool of 50 am I most likely to find someone who knows and doesn't hate working in Java?

The one who has actual projects or professional experience in Java? I'm surprised this is such a sticking point. I list my skills last on the resume because it's the least relevant and it was mostly to try and satisfy ATS. But reality is stranger than theory, I suppose.

At least, that was my old approach. I found some advice I really liked and ultimately integrate a tech stack sub-bullet in every experience now. Seems to be a good balance of ATS and human(-skimming) readability.

johnnyanmac 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

AI wouldn't. It'll crunch the resume in milliseconds and sort it out itself.

HR is a mixed bag, usually without technical context. I'm sure most engineers in the 00's and 10's have some experience of "Java and JavaScript are similar, right?" In a recruiter call.