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justinator 5 hours ago

I was under the impression a large % of jobs posted on jobs sites are done simply for compliance reasons and because HR has some "bullshit jobs" parts to it and the companies will usually simply hire from within the company itself.

reticulates 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sometimes that can happen but it is not common, certainly not a large % of job posts.

justinator an hour ago | parent | next [-]

n of 1 and all, but most jobs I've gotten that were worth getting were from personal reference. To the extent that applying through job sites seems like a real waste of time unless I'm really desperate.

And to reflect that, the jobs I've gotten were the ones you'd only accept if you were really desperate.

(Covid Times, man: Covid Times.)

Bratmon 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you have a source on that?

It would be genuinely shocking to me if someone came up with evidence that the majority of jobs on job sites were made by companies that actually intended to hire the best candidate that applied through that site!

reticulates 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Surely you should be looking for evidence of the opposite. Why would a company create a job listing if they aren’t hiring? You are supposing there’s a global conspiracy to create fake job listings.

Every company I’ve worked at, from startups to big tech have had job listings open when they want to hire someone. Sometimes a job post will stay open for months or even years, not because it is fake but because finding the right candidate is far more important than finding a candidate.

I empathize with the frustrating experience of seeing job listings that you’re qualified for and not being hired, and certainly a lot of companies half-ass their hiring and do not review every applicant, but fake job listings make very little sense. When they do occur, it’s for obscure reasons, not because that is standard operating procedure.

The whoishiring thread here on HN regularly sees candidates accuse regularly posting companies of not actually hiring, even though there’s ample evidence these companies are hiring.

Re: the original claim about job posts being created when the company already has an internal candidate, there are very few organizations where that is necessary. A private company rarely has an obligation to consider outside candidates, it is mostly seen in government recruitment and for visa reasons. Job sites charge lots of money to list, a company wouldn’t waste money advertising a job they don’t intend to hire for.

Bratmon an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The evidence for ghost jobs existing is that a majority of hiring managers openly admit to posting ghost jobs:

https://clarifycapital.com/job-seekers-beware-of-ghost-jobs-...

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12977

I'm still waiting for they evidence they don't exist, which was conspicuously absent from your post despite its length.

Telaneo an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

https://www.resumebuilder.com/3-in-10-companies-currently-ha...

2024.

rubatrejo 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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lucicditee 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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