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text0404 an hour ago

> Is saying the following (different person said this, but was also arrested) a petition for redress of grievances?

Yes, and it's protected by the first amendment.

> they don't guarantee that every single person will be able to speak at length about their grievances.

In this case, they didn't let anyone speak at any length about their grievances. Hence this article.

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dekhn an hour ago | parent [-]

No, insulting a person is not a petition for redress of grievances. To do so, you must actually state a grievance. In this case Powell just wanted to insult the city council.

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text0404 an hour ago | parent [-]

That's Powell. Heider was also arrested and prevented from petitioning for redress of grievances, going back to my point:

> In a democracy, it's generally disruptive to prevent constituents from petitioning for redress of grievances.

The real "disruption" here is the fact that the council and the mayor refuse to listen to their constituents, not that some of those constituents are angry about it.

	▲	dekhn 21 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Right- if you read the context of our thread, I started talking about Powell. I think Heider has a much better case, were she to try to sue the city council (which I think is a waste of time if her goal is to prevent Flock cameras), but even then, the laws and cases around people who disrupt city councils are complex, and if the city lost... it would j ust end up costing tax payers more money. Are you sure the intent of the council was to specifically refuse to listen?