Firefly especially, for me.

Firefly…didn’t age well. A buddy said that to me and I scoffed. Rewatched a few years ago and kind of regret it.

Some individual moments/episodes are still great but most of it is very cringe inducing and/or didn’t age well as a “joke.” Knowing what we know about Adam Baldwin (and Whedon frankly but Baldwin is a special kind of gross) doesn’t help either.

The anti-hero shtick also really aged poorly. Mal overall just comes across as a narcissistic asshole who cosplays a thief with the heart of gold occasionally. The confederado angle also didn’t register to me back then because I was younger but now I don’t care for it.

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AuthAuth 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I watched it recently for the first time and found it to be very good. I'd say it holds up well to todays shows.

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squeegeeninja 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't know why, but in my head Firefly as a whole occupies roughly the same spot as a boring Farscape episode.

	▲	Forgeties79 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It’s overhyped but for a lot of people like me it was pretty fresh and different. Strong banter dialogue too, got a lot of praise for people “talking like people.”

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lukan 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I somehow just recently discovered the whole series - and I did enjoy it, but yes, not because, but despite the main character being a "narcissistic asshole" most of the time. But it probably also helped that I did not took it too serious, nor do I know anything about Baldwin.

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Forgeties79 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I get not taking things seriously but the show does ultimately take itself pretty seriously. Whedon just can’t let emotional beats breathe and breaks them up with wisecracks lol

Baldwin…well, he was one of the reasons gamergate became a thing, which is by itself bad enough but also hardly his only offense. He’s pretty awful. So knowing his “manosphere” proximity makes his act a little too real, like Spacey with American Beauty.

Shame too. Hero of canton (is that the episode name?) was pretty memorable and has a beautiful ending.

	▲	lukan 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		"the show does ultimately take itself pretty seriously" Yeah it does, which is why I was not too sad, that there was not much more (and I did regret watching Serenity the movie), but that Baldwin is awful, well, fit's his character? Apart from that, judging movies with my own set of ethical standards - there is not much I can watch, if taking things serious and be able to identify with the main characters.