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atonse an hour ago

Tesla's already solved this - their vision model does this phenomenally well.

And they've demonstrated adding a sidecar LLM to it as well, mostly for these kinds of "read these 3 street signs, what should i do next?" sort of situations.

overgard 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Totally solved: https://electrek.co/2026/09/15/tesla-four-fatal-driver-assis...

atonse 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You added "totally" - as others have said, I don't know if anyone will claim a perfect system with no fatalities, enough stats show that it is already much safer than human drivers.

And the true third party validation is that insurance companies are starting to offer lower premiums the more you use FSD. So their risk models are showing enough improvement that they're putting their money where their mouths are.

The idea that Tesla's FSD is not ready for the mainstream is quite outdated, given that tons of Tesla owners are already using it daily, not just your early adopter types.

red75prime 3 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Note that the article has no info on whether it's FSD or Autopilot and whether they contributed to the fatal crashes. "Verified engaged" means ADAS was active at some point in the interval from T-30s to the end of the accident. The total number of collisions is not normalized by the miles driven.

Marha01 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anecdotes. Only accident rate per mile driven (compared to human drivers' rate) is a relevant comparison. I don't think that any self-driving system will ever be absolutely perfect (all such complex non-linear systems are to some degree probabilistic and chaotic), but as long as the accident rate is lower than the human accident rate, I would consider it solved.

Obscurity4340 22 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

$o $olved

matt_heimer an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The same Tesla that pulled radar to go vision only and a person was killed because the vision model didn't recognize a truck? https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36680043

Not sure that counts as phenomenally well.

atonse 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

This is from ten years ago. Tesla's vision only FSD is extremely good now. It has been for at least 18 months or longer.

danielklnstein 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That incident and article is from ten years ago.

matt_heimer 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

From this year https://www.autoweek.com/news/a70794762/nhtsa-escalates-prob...

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