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lifeformed 18 hours ago

Depends on what "decision" means. If I say, "Claude, compile a list of 1000 buildings to blow up," and then skim the output briefly and then press the red button, I wouldn't say Claude "decided" anything.

geraneum 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Of course it did! Among hundreds of thousands it decided those 1000 are the ones to blow up! No matter how we twist the meaning of “decision”.

archonis 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If someone made a table of one hundred potential targets and rolled ten ten sided dice to pick a row to target, do we blame the decision on the dice, the table, Wizards of the Coast, or the person who decided this was a good way to choose targets?

geraneum 14 hours ago | parent [-]

You’re conflating who chooses the decision maker with the decision making device.

So AI’s output is not so different than a roll of dice? Definitely the people who decided to put in such an incapable and unreliable tool should be held accountable. No dispute in that.

edoceo 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Who decided to bomb places? AI? Who decided to pick a fight? AI?

ajsnigrutin 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We had a public tender for some 3d model of a railroad project a few years ago, three companies applied and for some reason (corruption) the most expensive one was selected to make the model.

They blamed excel for the bad choice. Excel.

I mean sure, you can always blame the tool, i can blame my cars rear parking sensors when i hit someone when backing up during parking, but come on... at some point, a human is responsible. Someone, some person, decided and greenlit the decision to bomb those places and should now be in jail for that.

I mean, what's next? A building collapses, because the load bearing sections are too weak... do we blame CAD tools now?

geraneum 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Non of the example you’ve falsely equivocated have the word “intelligent“ in them though, do they?

joquarky 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Just keep moving those goalposts while ignoring your cognitive dissonance that seems to reject the fact that humans are ultimately responsible.

geraneum 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah you must be one of those "Guns don't kill people, people kill people".

ajsnigrutin 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Great example, if someone is killed by gunfire, does the gun go to jail or does the shooter (a person) take responsibility?

GoblinSlayer 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Then you suddenly realize you outsourced your thinking to Claude, because it's tiresome to think by yourself.

1718627440 14 hours ago | parent [-]

The decision to blow up 1000 buildings, without any background check wasn't done by claude.