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awesome_dude 17 hours ago

> Then there's no such thing as security.

There really isn't

Ask anyone seriously involved in security - whether computer science related, or in general.

A thought experiment: Think about the most important secrets a country can have - now think how they are still discovered by competing countries, enemies, etc.

As long as there are humans in the loop there is a known weakness.

kulahan 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This simply isn’t the case. There are plenty of secrets that every military keeps just fine. See how long we’ve gone without anyone ripping off the F-22? That’s not even a new airframe anymore.

This is EXACTLY what I was talking about. The tech that makes the F-22 an unmitigated terror of the skies is of utmost importance, so it’s still kept secret. The barriers around that information are obnoxious, but effective. What blood type a subsection of your military has is of much less importance. That’s why that data was stolen (See: OPM hack) and our best weapons remain secret.

josephg 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'd love to see real stats on this.

We know about many famous cases of leaks - like the USSR stealing notes from the manhatten project. But I bet there are thousands of secrets which remain secret. We just don't actually know about them, because, y'know, they're kept secret.