| ▲ | jcranmer 12 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> The reason there's not more public transit is because the economics are terrible. The reason we don't have roads is because the economics are terrible. The government gets $0 per trip [1], but it costs billions of dollars a year in operating expenses. Wait, that's not how it works. [1] Federal gas taxes don't count, because those go to the Highway Trust Fund which funds road construction, which is not an operating expense. State gas taxes may vary. Although toll roads also properly charge people user fees, although for some reason, lots of drivers complain about how expensive tolls are... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | tristanj 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
But you can't ignore the financials. SF Muni's $3.62 cost per passenger mile is atrocious. At that price point, it's cheaper to charter a helicopter. I'm not kidding. You could literally charter a 20-seat Airbus H175 helicopter to fly people around for $2.50 per passenger mile. And you'd get there faster. If public transit is less cost-effective than taking a helicopter, then something is clearly broken. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | xnx 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Roads are fully paid for by road users (i.e. everyone). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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