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slopinthebag 14 hours ago

good. smoking is better for the soul than vaping. and you look cooler too.

i consume roughly 50mg of nicotine a day through pouches and have no issues quitting cold turkey, often for weeks at a time. its nice to reset your tolerance. but i find it hard to believe others find it so addicting. same with caffeine. do people really get headaches because they miss a coffee?

alcohol is another story tho. it's a lot more enjoyable and thus harder to eliminate without actually replacing it with something else.

wiseowise 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> and you look cooler too

Did you watch too many Marlboro ads? Smokers look like bozo either way.

slopinthebag 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

nah, as it usually goes it's become cool again with the youth because its rare, risky, and their parents hate it

sublinear 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The pouches are how I got off vaping as well. The vaping is how I quit smoking, but I would never go back to either.

I actually prefer and enjoy the slower nicotine delivery of pouches. If the oral fixation is a problem for anyone, they can just leave the pouch in long after it's dead. They're easy to stop using because there's no chasing a "rush". I think it's a superior product design.

I also go long periods of time without pouches, but I will say 50mg a day is quite a lot. I average about four of the 6mg pouches in a day when I even use them at all.

I tapered off alcohol when the anxiety during hangovers and compulsive overeating started to get out of hand. It was a good run. I'll have the occasional seltzer during holidays or events. That genuinely is just one or two to get a slight buzz. I can't feel any euphoria from it anymore, just mild relaxation that eventually progresses back into stress when I go over my limit. A big help in confirming it wasn't "all in my head" was my smartwatch showing my elevated heart rate, low HRV, and bad sleep. I feel much stronger euphoric feelings from working out now than I ever did from drinking.

In the end, moderation is key as it's ever been. It's a lot easier when the top (or sometimes only) options are not just beer and cigarettes.

paulpauper 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How cool is COPD and lung cancer? Vaping at least does not kill you