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| ▲ | iAMkenough a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Sorry, I was taught good Americans don't murder people unjustly. I guess that is a utopian fantasy to think good Americans were serving our country. So much for "speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves". America kills the innocent is accepted fact, I guess. The ultimate pro-life society. | | |
| ▲ | pessimizer a day ago | parent [-] | | Do you believe every TV ad you see, too? If you do, do you think you should stand in judgement of people who don't? Thinking everyone who doubts is a cynic is your problem, and you're continuing to execute on it. When the next liar rolls in and says they fixed everything, you'll be the first to run in bashing people saying "no, I don't think he did." Do you not read? Do you not know anything about what America has done? Your lecturing is not virtuous. | | |
| ▲ | iAMkenough a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Killing kids overseas is the best way to end up with dead Americans. That's not virtuous, it's just common sense. Without accountability and justice for those families that experienced unnecessary loss, they're coming for us to seek their own justice. Rightfully so. Can you not take a second to put yourself in their shoes as a parent? If the tables were turned and Iran's government "accidentally" bombed an elementary school in the U.S., I feel like you would have a different opinion on justification for revenge. In this instance on the very first day of strikes on Iran, the U.S. Military instigated future conflict by murdering hundreds of innocent children. Your children will pay the price in one way or another. Actions have consequences. Trump and his installed sycophants in Congress and the SCOTUS reject that reality, but their constituents aren't as gullible as they banked on. When they get their golden parachute, Presidential pardons, and taxpayer funded-protection, you are left holding the bag for bankrolling this atrocity. | |
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| ▲ | 1718627440 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's not, if the status quo ante was not deemed to be moral in the first place. | |
| ▲ | iAMkenough a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | For the sake of argument, I'm also entertaining your idea of what happens after the U.S. spends 20+ years killing innocent family members overseas. And how that strategy has changed since the Iran conflict many years later? Have we learned a single thing about entering into endless conflicts? We're bringing an end to anti-American radicalism by conducting a repeated pattern of carelessly murdering of children of potentially pro-democracy parents in these regions, while also cutting international aid? If it was my 12-year-old murdered by a "targeting error," I would dedicate my life to revenge. Not a "democracy effort" by President yam tits and his neoptism family circus failing to broker deals internationally on behalf of good intentioned American voters bankrolling this needless loss of American troops. | | |
| ▲ | Cyph0n a day ago | parent [-] | | This is a war that is generally supported by both Republicans and Democrats - the latter mostly dissenting to the fact that it is being conducted without Congressional approval. It is also a war that extends in part from the Gaza genocide, which as we know was overseen and backed by a Democratic administration. In other words, this is a war enabled and sanctioned by our government collectively, and not a particular administration or party. | | |
| ▲ | AngryData 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Unless congress votes on it this is an illegal war. There is no wiggle room here because Iran was not an imminate threat to the US and took no military actions against us. | |
| ▲ | iAMkenough 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Did representatives from the U.S. House and Sentate vote to authorize this? No. You're full of shit. It's Trump's Executive Branch demanding quotas from the Pentagon that led to bad information being used to murder 100+ children. No surprise with "No Tab Pete" at the helm of the Pentagon. Maybe if Republican and Democrat elected representatives had an oppportunity to authorize the Iran war, I would listen to you. Respectfully, your argument is bullshit. Produce voting records authorizing the war, or shut up. Every family member of a fallen U.S. Service Member should be seeking you out right now for how many American soliders have been lost to this Congressionally unauthorized war, with no results to show for it but record high Diesel prices causing American farmers to go bankrupt. | | |
| ▲ | Cyph0n 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Just came back to this. I am genuinely curious: were you expecting to start a discussion with such a disrespectful reply, or were you just ragebaiting? | |
| ▲ | nixon_why69 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They haven't voted to stop it, either. We're way past 90 days, it's a choice for congress not to exercise their power. Schumer could be raising hell and disrupting everything in the senate in order to force a vote, it would be incredibly popular and define the midterms, but he's choosing not to. | | |
| ▲ | iAMkenough 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | The U.S. House has, after bad polling more Republicans are turning on Trump leading up to the midterms. | | |
| ▲ | nixon_why69 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Took them a few tries to even get there, and the senate hasn't even taken it up for consideration. Chuck Schumer wants this war, even though 60% of Americans and like 90% of democrats are against it. He just needs deniability to blame it on Trump. | | |
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