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cpursley 3 hours ago

They are also openly and proudly using this system along with Starlink to assist Ukraine, who a couple months ago killed a bunch of teens in a college in East Ukraine under very similar circumstances that a simple Google or Yandex maps search would have red-flagged plus on the ground real human intel. Unless the point was actually to kill kids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Starobilsk_strike

allknowingfrog 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think your source is undermining your claim. That Wikipedia article strongly suggests that the whole event was fabricated by Russia.

phainopepla2 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

No, it doesn't

allknowingfrog 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

The third sentence: "Neither Reuters, the United Nations, or other western countries were able to independently verify any claims about the incident."

The fifth sentence: "Several UN members requested access to the area for verification, which was not provided".

I have no idea what actually happened, but it sure sounds like the Wikipedia article has some doubts.

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cpursley 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Okay, that one is fake because Russia bad. Iran one is real because Orange man bad. Same ISR and targeting systems. Mental gymnastics is a hell of thing.

FireBeyond 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Says the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry, which then immediately refused to allow the UN access to verify the claim.

ceejayoz 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The account in question has a history of being… deeply credulous of Russian claims.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47441817

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36559017

etc.

cpursley 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Thank you for reminding me about these posts, time has proved my statements true. Especially after the Iran war exposed these outdated systems via direct hits on US bases, which can't be narrative'd away like in Ukraine.

ceejayoz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> time has proved my statements true

The S-400 is fairing well? F-35s apparently walked all over Iran's air defense network without much challenge.

> Especially after the Iran war exposed these outdated systems via direct hits on US bases…

Interception rates have been extremely high. The problem, of course, is the ammo shortage and drone cost asymmetry. Which has been widely documented, and presents an issue for the S-400s too.

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