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grishka a day ago

That's not a given. Visionary people sometimes go mildly insane over time. Source: worked at VKontakte and Telegram and watched it slowly happen to Durov.

flemhans a day ago | parent [-]

How did it affect Durov?

grishka a day ago | parent [-]

Questionable features like being able to delete anything in the conversation on both sides. Tacky UI choices like liquid glass on Android or the excessive use of Lottie animations every-damn-where. All while being completely deaf to feedback, both from within the team (any criticism makes you "toxic") and from the public. The way he treats his employees isn't exactly good either.

ivm a day ago | parent [-]

The first one is excellent though, I wish all messengers had it.

grishka a day ago | parent [-]

But you can no longer trust Telegram that things you had in your chat will still be there tomorrow. This feature feels like someone has hacked into your device and deleted files they didn't like.

ivm 21 hours ago | parent [-]

"Your" chat consists of other people's messages too and they own those. You can also delete your messages on Discord or Slack – it's quite normal as a feature.

grishka 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Firstly, I'm talking about PMs, not group chats. Group chats have different requirements because they have to be moderated.

Of course, I have nothing against being able to delete your own messages for both. A time limit within which you can do that is nice but I can live without one. But Telegram lets you delete every message in any PM conversation, including incoming ones, for both people. Or even the entire conversation, and make it disappear from the other person's list without a trace.