I dont understand why there is not a gpt-6 terra?

blovescoffee 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It wasn't really used enough and it sat in an awkward middle space between luna and sol where either luna high/xhigh or sol med were better cost/perf wise

	▲	OutOfHere 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I don't agree. In "none" thinking mode, Terra serves a useful purpose where medium-grade intelligence is needed. Luna doesn't cut it. Hardly enough time had passed to develop the data to come to a conclusion. Users can take time to build interest.

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sandos 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm scared now, my employer only allows Luna and Terra on 5.6. I really hope they will allow Sol then on GPT 6.

Funny thing is they very recently also set a real limit per-user/month, so why even limit the models because theyre "too expensive".

	▲	apitman 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Your employer should reconsider. Sol high is cheaper than Terra max and smarter, when measured per task. ie even if tokens are more expensive Sol can often do a job with fewer tokens.

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smith7018 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I read that there are rumors that they're getting rid of that tier. No idea where the rumor came from, though. This lends credence to it, I suppose.

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miohtama 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sol price is halved so no need for terra

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Tadpole9181 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It probably didn't see that much use, as it struggled to find a niche. If you wanted intelligence tasks, Sol was cheap enough and much smarter. If you wanted performance and cost-effectiveness, Luna was significantly better value while being only a little less intelligent.

Terra ended up just being an awkward middle ground that was not particularly suited for any workload.

	▲	darklinear 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I disagree. After a bit of experimenting, I actually found Terra to be a very good workhorse model on none-to-medium reasoning, and I actually quite prefer its code to Sol's in many cases. It has less of a complexity to over-complicate things. Where Sol would have a sea of try/except and recoveries for situations that are structurally impossible, Terra would just write nice, sequential code. Maybe for one-shotting large things Sol is better, but for prod code where I decompose into smaller tasks and read all the code I favored Terra. Sol 5.6 was still king for architecture/research in my workflow, though.
	▲	msh 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I have found it worked quite well as the workhorse model in my hermes agent.
	▲	OutOfHere 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The users of Terra disagree. Specifically, Terra is useful when medium-grade intelligence is needed in instant ("none" thinking) mode. Hardly enough time had passed to develop the data to come to a conclusion. Users can take time to develop an interest.