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meerita a day ago

OpenAI, Antrophic and others are operating with 80% margins. They can lower the prices for a long while.

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thimabi a day ago | parent | next [-]

You probably mean they are operating with 80% margins discounting training expenses, which will continue to be pretty high for the foreseeable future.

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wyre 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Seeing how cheaply Xiaomi was able to train Mimo 2.6 I am starting to wonder if they are greatly over-exaggerating the real training costs to increase their valuations and investments.

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desterothx 18 hours ago | parent [-]

that was rl, not training. its a fraction of the cost

	▲	anthonyrstevens 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Don't let facts and knowledge get in the way of a good conspiracy theory!

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slekker a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Source?

	▲	system2 a day ago \| parent [-]
		Not a source but a comparison with a weaker non-SOTA model: Nvidia's top AI chip Rubin sells in 72-GPU racks for about $3.5–7.8M. A rack running Xiaomi's MiMo V2.6 Pro generates roughly 150–300B tokens a day, worth about $130–260k at Xiaomi's API price. That's a payback of the infrastructure in a few weeks in theory. After a few weeks or a month, the only cost is electricity, and whatever they make after that is pure profit. OpenAI and Anthropic are practically scamming people with the token prices.