Is anyone using any of JetBrains AI offerings? I feel like they are burning piles of money on areas I never hear anyone talking about using. The only thing I ever used was their AI plugin, tried Junie once, but the rest just seems like noise I dont care about.

▲ GordonS an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I use Rider and DataGrip regularly. I also use WriterCide,

DataGrip is seriously under-rated, IMO.

▲ tedggh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rider was my IDE for years until they started pushing their AI tools while not letting you bring your own models. Then it seems they listened to the complaints and for a while I could use Codex but then the next update took it away. So I ran out of patience and switched to VS Code, and that was the end of JB and my dear Rider for me.

▲ the__alchemist an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

PyCharm and RustRover. It is astonishing no other IDEs have offered direct competition. I would prefer a faster/lighter alternative to my tablet, but none exists.

edit: Sorry; misread. No, and I am very confused by their diaspora of AI offerings!

▲ darkwi11ow an hour ago | parent [-]

Imo vscod(ium) with pyrefly LSP is miles better than Pycharm today. Never used rust rover but rust-analyser LSP also worked great for me. Interesting which features of jetbrains IDEs do sell it for you

	▲	the__alchemist 43 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I don't have a good direct comparison to that, but broadly: `- Natural treatment of multi-file projects - Introspection - Refactoring - Keyboard shortcuts, specific types of search etc - The build/run windows` Overall, it feels like JB treats the core units as languages and multi-file projects, while others, including VsCode, treat it as text files. Whenever I try something else, I look for these features, assume I'm doing something wrong, then come to an understanding that no one else does them to the same degree. For example, Zed has no concept of moving items. I don't know if VsCode does, but whenever I try that, it seems to have only superficial ability to introspect on function calls, data structures etc.