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| ▲ | xoxxala 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | My step-father’s parents smoked a carton a day. Each. They started smoking before breakfast and stopped just before sleep. Their trailer home had a 2-3’ cloud of haze below the ceiling and every surface was sticky. I’m not how many years they smoked like that, but probably decades. As a kid, I could not breathe in there. This would have been late 70s. No way they could have afforded that habit at today’s prices. | | |
| ▲ | paulpauper 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That is crazy. How long did they live? It would be fascinating if someone could live a long life despite smoking so much | | |
| ▲ | xoxxala 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Mid to late 70s? Their last years were nothing but medical issues (from the smoking, plus excessive drinking) and poor health. Certainly kept me from starting to smoke. | |
| ▲ | userbinator 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It would be fascinating if someone could live a long life despite smoking so much Genetic variation probably has a bigger role than we'd like to admit. There are definitely outliers. I know smokers who lived into their 90s, and non-smokers who died much younger. The sibling comment says they lived into their 70s, which is probably average. ...and then there's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment#Health_and_life... Calment continued smoking in her elderly years until she was 117 | | |
| ▲ | rsynnott 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Well, I mean, context: > Her husband introduced her to smoking, offering cigarettes[5]: 4–21 after meals, but she did not smoke outside these post-meal occasions. Having a cigarette after meals is less than ideal of course, but it's not like it's a pack-a-day habit. | |
| ▲ | bluecheese452 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The data is pretty clear. The existence of outliers does not change this. | |
| ▲ | lloeki 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I know smokers who lived into their 90s, and non-smokers who died much younger I hate this anecdata. I do know these too. But statistics don't lie. The odd outlier is not relevant. How many times can you roll the dice and win the saving throw? Smoking kills, and when it doesn't it destroys well-being. Even without the health issues smokers becoming absolute pricks because they didn't get their fix. Or how much imposing their cloud of ash is invasive, even in open air. Did you know that parents going outside to smoke in front of the door thinking of their child is mostly a feel-good thing? The minimal distance to not impact the child is 10m from outside walls, and that's not counting the nicotine and ash that permeates the skin and clothing, which gets ingested in the next hug or three, leading to significant amounts of nicotine being found in children hair. I know, I've been there, I've been that guy. Stressing out because I had only two left in the pack on a Sunday. Rushing to buy a pack before the shop closes like my life depended on it. Snapping out when the effect wears off. Leaving the table at restaurants to get my fix. Barely able to get through an entire movie at the cinema, and as soon as credits roll, get out and immediately swallow an entire cigarette in under a minute. Now that I'm out of it I can see the absolutely disrespectful behaviour, and in a way I understand because I've been there, I've been the addict that can't see how I harm not just me but others too. I've been the addict that keeps the blindfold of denial so that I could continue satisfying my craving. And now life is _so much_ better without it. Much better energy, focus, willpower, and freedom. There is _nothing_ positive about smoking. It's death in a tube, plain and simple. |
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| ▲ | gaigalas 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | 2-pack-a-day smoker here (~40 cigs per day), for over 10 years (twice that if you consider the time I was 1 pack or less a day). I stopped smoking and started vaping for a while (~1.5 years) and went back to smoking after some bad vape experiences. At some point, even the smell of the liquid would cause me nausea. My health is surprisingly good despite the habit. I walk every day, and I can do longer cardio without loosing breath or feeling tired. I'm either lucky or sitting on some ticking time bomb that went unnoticed so far. I definitely recommend not starting on either though. | | |
| ▲ | tonyarkles 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | My sister-in-law was so upset when we ran a 10K together, I beat her by 5 or 6 minutes, and when she found me at the finish line I was having a smoke. Genetic lottery for sure. I’m still quitting but it’s not really because of acute or chronic health problems, mostly cost and being tired of stinking all the time. |
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| ▲ | 486sx33 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | saulpw 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | John Wayne is said to have chain-smoked 5-7 packs a day? If you can smoke a cigarette every ~30 mins, that's 2/hour (actually about 1.5 packs/day), but if a cigarette takes 10 minutes to smoke and you chain-smoke, that's 6/hour (4.5 packs/day). So it's doable but John Wayne was significantly out of breath the last 10+ years of his life, perhaps from having an entire lung removed. | | |
| ▲ | caymanjim 18 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A lifelong chain smoker will smoke a cigarette in 1-2 minutes and light up another. 3-5 minutes is a relaxed casual smoke. Cigarettes were modified a decade or so ago to ensure that they go out quickly if not actively smoked. It's not even possible anymore to keep a cigarette burning for long enough for it to take 10 minutes. This is all pedantic. The point is that you can chain smoke quite a lot if you're dedicated. I've never met anyone who smoked more than two packs a day regularly or maybe three on a crazy night out of drinking and smoking. 4-5 is crazy. | |
| ▲ | dmix 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Lucille Ball's voice changed dramatically over the course of the 6yr show from heavy smoking. Their show was sponsored by cigarette companies and she used to hand out cigarettes on a platter to guest when they came over to her house. | | |
| ▲ | shipman05 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | I went to a Black Keys concert in 2007 or so that was sponsored by Camel cigarettes and they were giving out free packs of their newest variety at the door. |
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| ▲ | paulpauper 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | had one lung removed, and the other was probably close to worthless from smoking |
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| ▲ | AngryData 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don't know how they did it but 50 years ago some people did seem to smoke non-stop. Of course they were still an exception.
Of course when they cigarettes were dirt cheap you could let atleast a few burn up with just a puff or two off it also. These days they are so expensive from taxes that setting it down and breathing for a second instead of smoking can feel like burning money. | | |
| ▲ | gerdesj 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm 55 (UK) and recall the '70s. Loads of people were hardened chain smokers, including my Dad back then and on through to the early noughties. Chain smoking was not an exception at all but it was a dying habit and did trail away. I can remember filling cups with fags for parties to intersperse with the nibbles - you could reach for a handful of crisps or light up or both at the same time. They looked lovely next to the pineapple and cheese hedgehog (you'll have to look that one up!) He'd go through something like 80 Embassy back then, a day. He gave up in 1984ish and is still trundling along. His Dad died at age 60 of lung cancer. I gave up about eight years ago after 30 odd years at roughly 20 a day. I definitely did some damage and will eventually have to find out how much. I don't have a near permanent cough and at least five major bouts of 'flu per year anymore. I did have a short bout of Covid in 2021 and I suspect it might have been really nasty if I was still a smoker then. | | |
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| ▲ | cgio 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There was a rumour/some basic statistics that smokers were at more risk in bad cases of Covid but nevertheless were proportionally less likely to have heavy Covid. | |
| ▲ | paulpauper 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Smoking was so huge in Britain. People think smoking was big in America, but the UK it's like a culture in and of itself | | |
| ▲ | RugnirViking 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | for what its worth, I was amazed when I moved from the UK to denmark that young people smoked in denmark. For me it was a thing for old people, mostly due to the price I suspect. It just wasn't cool - although vaping has changed both of these since I left, by my understanding | |
| ▲ | vonunov 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | But not in America? I mean, we have our little smoker subculture with at least some semblance of etiquette and shibboleths, and the protocols for bumming a cig (ideally, ask to buy one instead, whereupon the other party should just give you one, unless they're nearly out), and so on. We had ashtrays at the ends of the aisles in the grocery store, and restaurant hostesses asking us "smoking or non?" and bringing us ashtrays. People at work grumbling about smokers getting extra breaks all the time, and the smokers for their part having to hike to the smoking area (or enclosure, even). Common memories of the strange experience of being sent to the corner store at a one-digit age to buy a pack for someone. I'm sure that's not all there is to it but I can't think of anything else at the moment. Anyway, what are we missing? I think I sound a little bit defensive about whether America has a significant smoking culture, but I'm just curious. |
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| ▲ | jghn 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > There is no human on earth that can smoke continuously the entire day for very long Out of curiosity how old are you? I remember plenty of places in my younger days where it was commonplace for people to light up their next cig off of their current one pretty much nonstop | |
| ▲ | paulpauper 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's just lighting and inhaling. It does not take any extra time | | |
| ▲ | lunchbucket 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm sure some people acclimate to it but if you give it a try I think you'll find first your throat will get burned, then you'll start to cough more and more, and eventually you'll throw up. And I think GP was suggesting that, beyond acclimating, there's also other demands on your time and you usually can't smoke through them all. |
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