Offtopic but the damage caused to an entire generation by Gwern's nicotine article is truly astounding. Obviously he's not responsible for the actions of others and it was written with good intentions but wow.

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3eb7988a1663 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have no sense of gwen's readership numbers, but I find it unlikely that one rather erudite blog has anything to do with global nicotine consumption. People have been smoking for centuries. The vaping industry had guerilla marketing campaigns to target college kids.

No rain drop thinks it is responsible for the flood, but I am hard-pressed to imagine a blog article greatly swayed hearts and minds.

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dudisubekti 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://gwern.net/nicotine

This one?

It seems to be listing the pros and cons of nicotine and is well-sourced...

What "damage" do you see caused by this article?

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simoncion an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah, once you remove the hazards inherent in cigarette and/or cigar smoking from the discussion, the only solid objection I've heard to nictotine consumption is that it's probably more addictive than caffeine.

I understand why personal vaporizer use was demonized, but -goddamn- that's going to be a public health disaster only an order of magnitude or two smaller than when folks started demonizing nuclear power back in the mid 1900's.

	▲	mschuster91 13 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> the only solid objection I've heard to nictotine consumption is that it's probably more addictive than caffeine. s/probably/massively. You don't see ads and public health messages for quitting coffee, you don't see bans for coffee advertising, but you do see a whole lot of things aimed at reducing or quitting nicotine products. Besides, nicotine withdrawal is utter hell. Caffeine withdrawal usually is solved by a night of good healthy sleep - most people drink coffee (or energy drinks) only because they are forced by circumstances to work against their chronotype.

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cenamus 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you talking about vapes?

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mock-possum an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Really? I don’t see anything objectionable in the article - and ‘an entire generation??’ How do you figure?

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aaron695 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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