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simonw a day ago

Pelicans for Flash: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...

Pelicans for Pro: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...

phainopepla2 a day ago | parent | next [-]

I think we can say pretty confidently they aren't pelican-bench-maxxing

Kurtz79 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A sentence that I would not have expected to read on HN as recently as last year, but that makes perfect sense today.

Jokes asides, @simonw any plan to include a 3D model version (make a 3D model of a Pelican riding a bicycle in Blender)?

Given that Astra seems to have improved a lot in 3D modeling capabilities (and that matches my experience) I'm actually quite interested to see if/when other models catch up and how they stack against it.

Or if anyone knows what would be a useful existing benchmark for that skill.

simonw 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I got a 3D pelican out of Blender and Astra a few weeks ago: https://simonwillison.net/2026/Sep/5/blender-coding-agents-m...

I've not committed to that as a benchmark yet because you really need a full coding agent configured to run Blender, and I like benchmarks I can run as a single prompt/response through the appropriate API.

I have been intending to get more of a coding agent benchmark going though, so maybe this should be part of it.

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tesnorindian 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A different pelican on a different bicycle direction(R2L) finally. Wondering why MiMo V2.6 Pro choose R2L and Flash choose L2R for the bicycle direction.

written-beyond a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

can you update this website, I just wish the entire layout wouldn't shift when the page gets loaded and the timestamps in the title look very ugly and take up a lot of space.

simonw a day ago | parent [-]

What operating system and device?

JavierFlores09 a day ago | parent [-]

Not sure if it is the same thing they're referring, but the transition from loading the prompt from the gist to the result is indeed jarring: https://files.catbox.moe/c56eyl.mp4

I don't believe it is that important, but I guess you might've just hit some people's pet peeve with that. If anything, it goes to show as to why skeletons are popular on modern sites

simonw 21 hours ago | parent [-]

I made a change which hopefully improves that.

written-beyond 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Night and day, thank you!

ciefa 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The one with the fish hahaha that's awesome

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valdrinNereth 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

pro model was having fun on minimal effort with that fish lmao, hilarious. out of curiosity, is it the first time we're seeing a fish there? I don't remember seeing that detail before.

handfuloflight a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How does this translate to coding performance, which is what most of HN cares about (...I assume)?

jofzar a day ago | parent | next [-]

It's incase you want to recreate this scene from who framed Roger rabbit in svg form, duh.

https://simonwillison.net/2026/Sep/18/the-creative-spirit-of...

singularity2001 15 hours ago | parent [-]

How dare people say neural networks generalize when it's all clearly in the training data? /ß

pipsterwo a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Absurd to think pelicans translate to coding performance. I don't care about coding! I need to generate a large volume of high quality pelican SVGs

gpt5 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Making SVGs is coding (of a very specific markup language). So it's not actually absurd. We've also seen that more capable models are generally better at everything minus benchmark contamination (benchmaxxing) anomalities.

simonw a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It means they're good at writing SVGs, in particular SVGs of animals riding modes of transport!

lanyard-textile a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I only visit HN for the pelicans, personally.

lukewrites a day ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I thought the "N" was for Nest

machomaster a day ago | parent [-]

Hungry Nibbler

brcmthrowaway a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just me, or do these look bad?

Qwen3.8-27b pelican was amazing on Mac.

https://www.nudgehost.com/dpjn3uwe

knicholes a day ago | parent | next [-]

Two legs on one side is a little sus.

jdironman a day ago | parent [-]

Honestly, seems like a pelican WOULD ride side saddle if at all.

idiotsecant a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Looking terrible isn't nessesarily a bad thing. The pelican is heavily pre trained now. Having a crappy pelican means you didn't try to juke the stats.

urbnspacecowboy 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This "no, Virginia, they aren't pelicanmaxxing" article is what broodbucket is probably thinking of: https://dylancastillo.co/posts/pelicanmaxxing.html

In any case, pelicanmaxxing comments without any further proof or evidence probably fall under the "Please don't post shallow dismissals" guideline.

broodbucket a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Apologies for not taking the time to find it, but there was a post that tried to determine if the pelican was benchmaxxed across a bunch of models by comparing it to other SVGs, and found that it wasn't at all.

Imanari a day ago | parent | prev [-]

ish… at least we can be sure they don’t benchmaxx the pelicans lol