| ▲ | WarmWash 3 hours ago |
| And I am sure that lolakutty will momentarily bestow the world with a consciousness test, solving a problem that has eluded millions of top thinking man hours over millennia of trying... However, I feel rather certain, that deep down the proposed test will just be another "is it chemical goo?" |
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| ▲ | lolakutty 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The test can only be done on oneself, and not on others. So I know I am conscious, and I am made up of a brain, among other things. So I know for a fact that this set of things that I am comprised of, can generate consciousness. |
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| ▲ | WarmWash 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | But then you are stuck being the only conscious entity... To extended anywhere beyond the firm ground of "I know I am conscious", you need to step onto the progressively shaky ground of assumptions, which just amounts to "tests of consciousness" i.e. I have a chemical goo brain that is conscious, therefore other chemical goo brains are conscious... It is possible that you are the only conscious entity in the universe, and you have no tools whatsoever to disprove that. That knowledge is no help in determining the consciousness of anything besides yourself. | | |
| ▲ | lolakutty 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | >It is possible that you are the only conscious entity in the universe, and you have no tools whatsoever to disprove that. That is correct. | | |
| ▲ | WarmWash 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | >Sure, if your architecture include hardware that is known to be capable of generation consciousness, the no one will say that. Then circling back to your original comment, no architecture can include hardware that is known to be conscious, unless that architecture includes your personal brain, because lolakutty's brain is the only thing in the universe that is capable of generating consciousness... Which is a totally meaningless statement. This is like im14andthisisdeep levels of philosophy here...the "Nothing is real therefore everything is real" kinda stoner riffing | | |
| ▲ | hardbass an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | He just goes around in circles saying inane non-sequiturs, then dodges when asked certain questions. | | | |
| ▲ | lolakutty an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yea, 14 year old should know it. Sad that I had to explain it to you.. |
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| ▲ | hardbass 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| He gave the classic "I feel" argument. The problem is I am not him. To me lolakutty and an LLM both can only present their feelings or state via external indications. Both he and an LLM can say they are conscious. Who if any of them is lying? |
