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| ▲ | hardbass 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | If you think current physics is insufficient but future physics might be sufficient, I can accept that but its still an unfounded belief. If you truly believe something "more" is needed, then you are placing a bet that always lost for centuries. Bets in anything supernatural or aphysical have always and consistently failed till now. | | |
| ▲ | lolakutty 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Not my words. | | |
| ▲ | hardbass 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | That magic means a different thing from supernatural magic. | | |
| ▲ | lolakutty 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Oh, What does it mean then? You are so amusing.... | | |
| ▲ | hardbass 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Its a purely physical mechanism but one that is currently beyond our understanding.
"Magic" magic is belief in souls, eg brains have aphysical magic. | | |
| ▲ | lolakutty 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Why do you think "souls" can't have some physical mechanism that is beyond our current understanding? | | |
| ▲ | hardbass 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | If you think "souls" have some physical mechanism then they are not souls by the definition I am using. We would then agree, though I do not yet think we have found reason for new physical laws to be required, however that can of course be a possibility. | | |
| ▲ | lolakutty 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | >they are not souls by the definition Kindly share that concrete definition.. | | |
| ▲ | hardbass 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It should have been clear from our discussion when I said "souls" I meant belief in the non-physical. Magic juice in the brain that is unexplainable by physics at all. Being unexplainable by current physics but explainable by future physics is not a "soul" by that definition. | | |
| ▲ | lolakutty an hour ago | parent [-] | | > non-physical. Now, what is your definition for this? | | |
| ▲ | hardbass an hour ago | parent [-] | | Go ask the people who believe in it. I for one cannot understand how something aphysical can affect our thoughts and decisions. But some think consciousness resides outside of physical systems entirely. | | |
| ▲ | lolakutty an hour ago | parent [-] | | But you said it, so you should have a definition, or else what did you mean to communicate by saying it? Or are you just parroting cool sounding words and phrases? | | |
| ▲ | hardbass 44 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Define consciousness | | |
| ▲ | lolakutty 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | All humans intrinsically understand it what that word refer to. So it is ok if we cannot define it in words. It conveys the idea.. But "non-physical"? I don't have a clue what it means...Why don't you tell me.. |
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