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bravoetch 6 hours ago

If everyone doing a 'bad thing' stepped off the hamster wheel today, the world economy would collapse before markets closed. The biggest companies have built an attention and surveillance nightmare machine that funnels all the money to a relatively small number of shareholders.

phyzome 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Are you suggesting that since "everyone does the right thing now" would have bad consequences, we shouldn't bother with "everyone does the right thing in a normally distributed way"? (Which is the less artificial scenario.)

nativeit 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

These kinds of discussions very quickly arrive at the “no ethical consumption under capitalism” line of thinking. No matter who you are, no matter what you do, some activity or product you engage with will have been the result of some kind of exploitation.

rpdillon 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, this is one of the central theses of the TV show "The Good Place". In simpler societies, it's easier to determine what is right and wrong, since actions are often local and can be judged on their immediate effects. But when everything is globalized and there's so many connections, determining right and wrong becomes much more difficult.

trumpdong 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"no ethical consumption under capitalism" is true, explains why we can't just stop bad things (everything is bad, so you'd starve) and is a jumping off point for a discussion of what we can actually do about it without starving.

phoronixrly 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Good.