| ▲ | c22 an hour ago |
| This sounds about right. When Uber's driverless car killed someone they got off pretty easy: *"In March 2019, Arizona prosecutors ruled that Uber was not criminally responsible for the crash. The back-up driver of the vehicle was charged with negligent homicide, pled guilty to endangerment, and was sentenced to three years' probation." [0] 0:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg |
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| ▲ | nextaccountic 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| So.. there's a driver in driverless cars. A fall guy that will take all the blame should the company needs to produce someone to be arrested, but don't otherwise have leverage to earn a decent living |
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| ▲ | gruez 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >So.. there's a driver in driverless cars. A fall guy that will take all the blame should the company needs to produce someone to be arrested Are you seriously pretending the driver doesn't have agency here? This accident was easily preventable by the safety driver, which makes the "fall guy" characterization misleading. Sure, maybe there was some risk of complacency, but what's the alternative? Should uber have gone full workplace surveillance and have a camera trained on the safety driver's face, to make sure she was paying attention? | | |
| ▲ | stefan_ 21 minutes ago | parent [-] | | But.. they did have that? What a bizarre argument. And yes, if you make software that drives the car, release it into public traffic, and then your software runs someone over that would be plainly visible to a reasonable human driver (the misleading dashcam footage you release to make it seem way too dark [to a shitty dashcam sensor] notwithstanding) - you should absolutely bear responsibility! How is that even a question? You did that! Not whoever you put there as a "safety driver". We can adjudicate their responsibility separately, but it's certainly not 100%. |
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| ▲ | gruez 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >When Uber's driverless car killed someone they got off pretty easy: The driverless car that very much had a safety driver, which got distracted because she was watching TV shows on her phone? |
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| ▲ | chadgpt8 27 minutes ago | parent [-] | | How well would you handle being paid to do nothing without distractions, 8 hours every day? |
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