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jmclnx 5 hours ago

Why meta is not fully banned in the EU is beyond me :)

I know banning or forcing meta to obey laws in the US is impossible due to bribes (political contributions), but in the EU I would think meta could at the very least be reined in.

mminer237 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This actually is a result of Meta being forced to obey EU law. Not sure why the article didn't explain things at all, but Regulation (EU) 2024/900 greatly restricts political advertising with typical vagueness, so Meta is enforcing a broad ban to ensure they comply.

tygon 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Information like this should be front-and-center. Call it malicious compliance if one wishes, but if there is one thing that is clear, Meta does not do anything (besides try and make money) without being forced to. A blanket ban on anything political does indeed mean a ban on all sides of an issue, even ones many would agree is positive.

dgellow 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The comment you’re responding to and that you want front and center is plainly wrong. The regulation is about transparency and restricting targeted advertising technics for political advertising. That has nothing to do with the situation at hand, it is meta doing something on their own.

And your point about Meta being forced to act is also wrong, companies aren’t just passive institutions that only react to regulations, they constantly take decisions and actions, and regularly manufacture that type of situation as a way to lobby regulators

tantalor 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It doesn't ban political advertising, it requires labeling/transparency, and prohibits targeting without consent or based on categories like race or religion.

It also defines political ad narrowly as placed by a political actor or campaign, or intended to influence some part of the political process, like voting, legislation, or regulatory action.

rr842j 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If that were the case, we wouldn't have far right AI generated political ads everywhere in Facebook. Just one example from France this week[1]

I don't know what motivation Facebook has to automatically limit certain political advertising and not other, but it certainly has nothing to do with EU regulation

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2026/09/19/the-lucr...

RugnirViking 5 hours ago | parent [-]

are the things that you linked to adverts? as in, someone paid facebook to promote them in the ad bit? or are they just regular content.

dathinab 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> enforcing a broad ban to ensure they comply.

that _really_ doesn't seem what is happening

an AD for a theater play is by no standard political advertisement

Political advertisement in the regulations context is reasonable clearly defined.

An AD for a theater play is in general very clearly _not_ covered by it.

To add to it: Civil rights & feminism (in it's official non hijacked definition, aka. equal fair treatment of man and women) are fundamental rights in the EU, something the regulation very clearly states it doesn't want to impeach on. So arguments that you could accidentally misread the regulation to include banning _non-political advertisement about artistic work covering fundamental rights are a bit absurd_.

Anywhere here is the definition of political advertisement in given regulation:

> political advertising’ means the preparation, placement, promotion, publication, delivery or dissemination, by any means, of a message, normally provided for remuneration or through in-house activities or as part of a _political advertising campaign_:

> (a)by, for or on behalf of a _political actor_, unless it is of a purely private or a purely commercial nature; or

> (b) which is liable and designed to _influence the outcome of an election or referendum_, voting behaviour or a legislative or regulatory process, at Union, national, regional or local level;

(emphasis mine)

So to put it simple: Meta is engaging in censure.

Stretching the term political to include more or less everything (like any topic people have opinions about a politician might speak about) is IMHO a pretty dishonest misinterpretation, especially given that it isn't even everything, but "everything Meta doesn't want to get involved with due to the current political environment".

At best this misinterpretation is due to laziness, at worst pushed by malicious actors in the US.

Given that Meta is a US company and the currently people in power there find this topics quit unpleasant and Metas long history of not faithfully complying with law and allowing all kind of ADs this looks very bad for them.

mminer237 an hour ago | parent [-]

"Designed to influence…voting behaviour" is incredibly vague. A play with political undertones could absolutely fit that definition. I understand that's not what was intended by the law, but if someone was advertising plays with support for policies you didn't like, you likely would be calling that political.

More relevantly, a broad, vague policy means an EU regulator can prosecute Meta whenever they feel like it if Meta does not go overboard.

RugnirViking 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

the law came into effect due to widespread advertising campaigns on facebook by someone (often thought to be russian government based) for both sides of any culture war topics, presumably to drive division. Things like simultaneously advertising BLM/ACAB + thin blue line.

darkwater 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> so Meta is enforcing a broad ban to ensure they comply.

No. Meta enforces a broad ban because they don't want EU to regulate them, so they drag their feet and create the most possible "unwanted collateral damage" so people will get upset at the regulation instead of the company. So, pieces like this from The Guardian are surely needed.

nottorp 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> create the most possible "unwanted collateral damage"

Other examples of this bullshit being cookie consent dialogs and Apple acting like a victim for being forced to open their platform a bit.

tmp10423288442 4 hours ago | parent [-]

If cookie consent dialogs have been going on for as long as they have, can they really be called malicious compliance at this point? Seems like people believe that is the actual intent of the regulation at this point.

nottorp 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Tell a lie enough times...

I personally see fewer and fewer of those original dialogs that had you deny 20-30 items one by one. Most of the pages I land on have the deny all button or have given up on pretending they care.

piltdownman 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Like they've famously obeyed GDPR?

Meta aren't 'forced' to do anything other than treat the fines imposed by their lack of adherence to the laws of the territories they operate in as a BAU cost. Meta's profits run roughly the same as the GDP of Paraguay ($60.46 billion in 2025) - i.e. that Country's total value added by an economy through wages, profits, and taxes. Their revenue is on track to exceed the Ukrainian GDP next year.

This year Meta will pay up to $16.7bn to settle landmark US legal actions as result of not obeying US law, reporting $2.4 billion in legal fees in Q2 alone.

The sum total of the EU fines issued (read: appealed and not collected) likely won't even exceed Metas legal fees for the 2026 calendar year; i.e.:

* April 2025 - €200m (DMA "consent or pay" advertising model)

* November 2024 - €797.72m (Antitrust re:Facebook Marketplace)

* September 2024 - €90m (Storage of user passwords in plaintext)

* May 2023 - €1.2b (Unlawful EU-U.S. user data transfers)

* January 2023 - €390m (Forcing personalized ads via terms of service)

* December 2022 - €251m (2018 data breach and system design lapses)

* November 2022 - €265 (Inadequate protection against data scraping)

* September 2022 - €405m (Instagram children's privacy)

tantalor 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Not sure why the article didn't explain things at all

The answer is right in front of your eyes: theguardian.com

AnimalMuppet 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How is a Virginia Woolf play "political advertising"?

watwut 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, showing ads for feminism or social issues related plays is not illegal in Europe. Nor fined. And it is practically practiced all around the Europe.

This strategy of "we will lie about what the law enforces, so that we can blame the regulator instead of the company" is getting old.

ActionHank 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We just need to start pirate streams of football games and it will be gone within the week.

tt24 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Why meta is not fully banned in the EU is beyond me :)

It’s pretty simple - the EU is unable to produce alternatives. This is because they don’t have the software talent for it.

Any talent they do have immediately runs for the SF Bay Area of the United States at the first opportunity.

You want good alternatives to Meta’s products? Pay engineers a competitive salary.

And no, the lower cost of living doesn’t even remotely begin to make up for the difference in comp. Same with healthcare - it’s effectively free in the United States for people who have jobs, especially so for SWEs.

boudin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Why would you want alternative to meta's product ?

tt24 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

To have the ability to ban Meta.

fooqux 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not saying it's not bad in the USA (because it is) but if you think there's no corruption or bribing in EU politics then I don't know what to say.

1attice 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Although both continents are presently losing themselves to fascism, quantity still has a quality all its own.

ericmay 5 hours ago | parent [-]

You're on the right track but instead of losing themselves to fascism what you should more accurately be pointing out, in my opinion, is that in general societies are becoming a lot more open to authoritarian ideologies, whether that's communism, fascism, or similar.

mhitza 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why do you think so many big tech companies are registering subsidiaries in Ireland? (Aside form the "Double Irish" mechanism that used to be in vogue more than a decade ago).

Plenty of hands seem to be well greased over there given how long it takes to issue fines for clear&cut violations of EU regulation.

thesmtsolver2 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So, Meta should be banned because it followed EU law to ban some things?

Wow, Europeans do have a penchant for recursively banning things :)

troupo 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No. Supranational corporations will find any and all ways to be maliciously compliant and blame the EU.

watwut 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Neither feminism nor social issues are banned in European advertissements.

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