It's very important to understand what's happening, sure. Blindly shipping AI-produced code without understanding is just irresponsible. But how does writing code helps with that? Reading helps a lot, but writing just slows things down in my experience so far.

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tripledry 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I compare it to math, you can't learn it by reading it you need exercises. Same thing, reading is not sufficient. Just my experience.

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Gisbitus 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Hard agree on this. I feel like it's pretty normal, but I struggle with retaining information by just reading. I really need the manual typing step to cement the knowledge.

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dimonomid 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah if it's done as part of learning effort, then I def agree.

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bluefirebrand 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can't learn what good code is by reading it, you have to write code to learn what good code looks like

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nrr 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'll push back against this slightly: learning what good code is requires debugging bad code, whether by way of a symbolic debugger or judicious use of printf() or breaking an algorithm down into its steps so that you can figure out its asymptotic behaviors.

I harped on checking someone's ability to debug code back when I interviewed candidates, in part because I found that people who could debug effectively could also sniff out bad code. It was something of a bonus that I also happened to select for candidates who could explain their debugging strategies and what that meant for the software they were working on.

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bluefirebrand 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't really draw much distinction between debugging and writing code. You really can't do one very effectively without the other imo

But you're right. The better indication of capability is debugging skill than writing skill.

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		It's kind of the same distinction between backups and restores, wherein the restores are what's important, but they're impossible without the backups to restore from. One of the first things I do in any new-to-me project is set breakpoints in the integration tests and start stepping through the code so that I can establish some mental context. However, if there aren't integration tests, I begin writing them so that I can walk around with my debugger.

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dimonomid 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

True, but having written enough (from many years of doing it full time), the returns from writing more are diminishing.

But yes I agree that as part of learning effort it's important to write, too.