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DoctorOetker an hour ago

> All of this is pretty irrelevant from a legal perspective.

> Reverse engineering is legal, but manufacturers don’t have to help you figure out how to reverse engineer their products and they’re allowed to design their products in a way that makes it difficult.

I'm not asking for help to figure this out, and of course RP is allowed to shoot themselves in any foot they like.

Consider Europe where such reverse engineering is perfectly legal for compatibility purposes. Let's consider an idealized scenario, there were no security bugs or other issues with the product that would justify reverse engineering RP blobs in public. When they do something like this, they are GIVING CARTE BLANCHE to public reverse engineering efforts to attain compatibility with other RAM chips. Why would you provide legal cover in some jurisdictions for others in publicly reverse engineering your own products by introducing artificial incompatibility?

Also from a consumer perspective, RP tries to place itself front and center in maker communties, emphasizing modularity, not just hobbyists, also companies build and design end products using RP units. All of these companies must now be wondering where RP Foundations exact red line resides: can we resell an RP board in a Kiosk we made? or only for as long as it doesn't compete with RP's future Kiosk modules? Today its the RAM upgrade, but tomorrow RP modules may refuse to boot some popular Kiosk hardware intentionally. What prevents RP Foundation from eventually "not copying" end-application hardware like a Kiosk design from their customers, and then enforcing compatibility only with RP Kiosks?

So not only are they providing legal cover for public reverse engineering efforts, they are scaring part of their customer base.

> There’s generally not a lot of jurisdictions out there that make stuff like hardware lockdowns of this nature illegal, especially for companies that are not in regulated industries or are not monopoly/oligopoly players.

That's a very shallow interpretation of law, looking only at what RP is or isn't allowed to do.

There's generally not a lot of jurisdictions out there that make stuff like reverse engineering for compatibility or security applications illegal either.

Grombobulous an hour ago | parent [-]

I think you’re overestimating the peril RP puts itself in here.