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cynicalsecurity 5 hours ago

Meanwhile pirates don't see any ads. Make this make sense.

mitxela 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The system discovered that it's always easier to force someone to give you money than to offer something they want to pay for.

chrisstu 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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Daneel_ 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Taking the cash from a bank deprives others of the money. Duplicating a video doesn’t deprive another person of anything.

Piracy is simple: when you make your product more convenient than piracy, people use it. Steam is popular for a reason - no crap, enormous game selection.. it’s just better than pirating. Netflix used to be the same - great selection, no ads.. now look: terrible selection and price is too high.

Brendinooo 5 hours ago | parent [-]

If a production crew of 1000 people makes a movie and everyone pirates it, you don't think those people will be deprived of anything?

mitxela 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The production crew is getting peanuts anyway. If one out of 100 people donates them some money, they come out ahead.

Also maybe it's their job to come up with a business model that everyone doesn't hate. If they'd just syndicate to all streaming platforms, piracy wouldn't be a problem for them.

Brendinooo 4 hours ago | parent [-]

>The production crew is getting peanuts anyway

1000 people on a feature film, you're looking at about $70 million in salary. That's peanuts to you?

> If one out of 100 people donates them some money, they come out ahead.

In other words, you're conceding the point that they would be deprived of something if everyone pirates their work.

chrisstu 3 hours ago | parent [-]

His argument has all the intellectual strength of a newborn lamb.

exe34 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In what world is everyone able or willing to pirate? I think your ad-absurdum is just absurd here.

Brendinooo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

>Duplicating a video doesn’t deprive another person of anything

This was the claim. I said what I said to point out that if everyone acted on this belief for a feature film, there would be a thousand people who ultimately don't get compensated for their work.

You are right: not everyone is able or willing to pirate. Piracy is only able to exist because of these people who pay for art. That's definitely true, and definitely different than the claim that no one is being deprived of anything.

exe34 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What are they being deprived of when somebody who was never going to pay makes a copy?

Brendinooo 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The motive of the pirate doesn't matter: they are deprived from the revenue that was circumvented.

exe34 an hour ago | parent [-]

No they can't be deprived of imaginary revenue.

Brendinooo 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

They are deprived of the payment they asked for in exchange for someone viewing their work.

Also, "the pirate was never going to pay" is a far more imaginary thing here; it's an unproven claim.

Regardless, it's a particularly arrogant kind of entitlement for you to violate someone's terms to enjoy their thing while telling them you think it's worthless.

rwmj 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Cash is rivalrous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivalry_(economics)

chrisstu 3 hours ago | parent [-]

A fancy word, presumably used in this context in an attempt to make the argument that stealing copyright material has no negative consequences.