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| ▲ | ehe78qhe a day ago | parent | next [-] | | This is missing a lot of steps like: - Building an emergency fund - Budgeting and tracking where your money goes - Planning and saving for large purchases like cars, homes and life goals - Optimizing use of tax-advantaged accounts like 401Ks, HSAs, and IRAs - What to do with ESPPs, RSUs, and options - How taxes work and how to optimize around them - Estate planning | | |
| ▲ | red-iron-pine 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | yeah but most of that is 1) covered by bogleheads, and 2) doesn't require serious education or advisors. take emergency funds -- how likely is it you can lean on friends or fam for money? do your budgeting and then plan for 6-12 months of budget. if you can get a load from the bank of mom and dad then maybe 3 months. |
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| ▲ | koito17 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There's quite a few implicit assumptions in that. In my case, I am double-taxed (both Japan and US side) on capital gains. Tax treaties reduce, but not eliminate, the extent of double-taxation. Many US-based brokers do not allow Americans abroad to purchase mutual funds, so VFIAX is not a choice for me. Maybe I can go with eMAXIS Slim All Country... Oh, but that is a PFIC under IRS rules and I'd be taxed on unrealized capital gains. So I guess no Japan-equivalents of VT for me. That's fine, I guess I'll just buy VT in my US-based brokerage account; but now I'm in a suboptimal spot with respect to monthly contributions, calculating JPY-denominated income tax on dividends, etc. I even made an implicit assumption when I said "calculating JPY-denominated income tax on dividends". That assumes your tax status is permanent resident. If your tax status is non-permanent resident, then a decent financial advisor will recognize that only the extent of income remitted to Japan gets taxed, so VT distributing at all isn't an issue (until 5 years later). What should you do before the 5 year threshold is hit? etc. etc. But yes, if you're born in America and plan to stay within the same state for the rest of your life, then a 100% automated setup that simply deposits $1,000/mo into VFIAX is probably fine. (But keep in mind, to most non-Americans, VOO is not really diversified compared to funds like VT). Otherwise, there is value in consulting someone (or something) that regularly handles taxes and financial planning. | | |
| ▲ | Propelloni a day ago | parent [-] | | Full agreement. I'm double-taxed in Germany and the US. I don't have a residency in the US (so I cannot vote but still get taxed, nice!) so I'm completely unable to buy VFIAX or any other fund from the US. I cannot but them over an EU brokerage, either, because US ETF and its ilk violate European transparency laws. I can buy EU-domiciled funds, but those are treated as PFIC in the US with prohibitive taxation. I relegated myself to an old-school dividend growth investment scheme and it's financially working out much better than I anticipated but still, I'd like to have a core of a stupid ACWI tracker. | | |
| ▲ | red-iron-pine 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | > I relegated myself to an old-school dividend growth investment scheme and it's financially working out much better than I anticipated but still, I'd like to have a core of a stupid ACWI tracker. roughly same approach in Canada, for the same reasons. if you look up most of the dividend aristocrat funds they'll give a breakdown of holdings... so duplicate those in roughly the same ratio (to the best you can) and call it a day |
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| ▲ | chasil a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | While I also practice Bogle's approach from The Little Book of Common Sense Investing, even with this baseline there are some subtleties. -VFIAX is currently $707/share. Fidelity's FXAIX does not have to be purchased in increments of a share price, and this fund's expenses are lower. -There are versions of the S&P 500 for taxable accounts that minimize capital gains. -Vanguard has a total-market index, VTSAX, that is mentioned in the book. -Vanguard also has a non-U.S. total market fund, VTIAX, that avoid the current CAPE problems of the U.S. market. Claude is very familiar with Bogle's approach, likely because the pirated book was part of the training set. | | |
| ▲ | sokoloff a day ago | parent [-] | | Though you don’t directly say it, your comment strongly implies that you can’t buy fractional shares of $VFIAX. (You can, same as $FXAIX, $VTSAX, etc.) |
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| ▲ | schnitzelstoat a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It depends though - I'm not in the US and in my country ETFs get taxed continually whereas mutual funds don't get taxed until you sell. In general, invest in low-cost index funds is pretty solid advice everywhere. In different countries you might use slightly different instruments due to tax advantages (like the ISA in the UK etc.) | |
| ▲ | IshKebab a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Some people do have complex financial situations. It's not as simple as that. For example in the UK (and maybe US?) you get tax relief for money you put into your pensions, but there's a limit of £60k/year. Unless you earn a lot (which I do, yeay) when that limit is tapered. Except that you can also use up to 3 years of previously unused allowance. But you have to use this year's first. Also interest is taxed, but you can put up to £20k/year into an ISA which isn't. And if you still want to avoid some tax you have kids ISA's and even pensions! Then there are also startup investment schemes that save you some tax. Those seem to be not worth it, but you get the idea - it can be complicated. Especially if you are near one of the many tax/benefit thresholds. The marginal tax rate in the UK bounces all over the place - it's even technically possible for it to be over 100%! |
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