Don’t ban it for kids. Ban the doomscrolling algorithmic feeds for everyone. Make them only show people posts from accounts they opt-in to following, and nothing else.

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jck86 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Or how about you adults all grow up and gain some healthy personal accountability instead of blaming your devices and society for your lack of self control.

For certain technology there should be bans but it is not social media and algorithmic feeds. There may be speedbumps, more user controls and auto classifiying of user type with optional alteration of the feed and type of content, but full bans for things like infinite scroll are disproptional.

Should sexual content be banned on social media? Maybe? Should violent footage be banned? It depends? Should bullying or predatory behavior be banned? I guess so? Or maybe it should it only be discouraged? What kind of social media does there exist? Is it binary or is it a spectrum, and should different rules or guidelines be applied?

Way too many variables. But what is clear is that age (ID) checks for the wide spread internet are completely out of the question. Governments should not have that much control over our social lives.

Face it, technology changes the world. The smartphone with camera did. If you could, would you put that genie back in the bottle? Should all content produced on smartphones be checked and watermarked and pulled through a selection of governments fingerprints to be publishable? Be very careful what you wish for since every new technology comes with hard to imagine second order effects and threats.

	▲	nekusar 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Explain to the audience the nature of "personhood" of Meta(Facebook), Alphabet(Google), etm. Parents aren't hiring thousands of behavioral psychologists to assail the public with weaponized psychology. Parents aren't running mass exploitation via emotional attacks (targeting pregnancy, anorexia, mental illness, depression, etc). Parents never encouraged or helped the genocidalists in the Rohinga genocide. But.... You blame parents. Standard capitalist response of calling everything a 'personal choice'.

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robotmay 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yep I'm also in favour of legally requiring the default feed on any "social" app to be a chronological feed from people you follow. It's both better for society longer-term and a better experience for the users, just not the shareholders.

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petcat 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Ban the doomscrolling algorithmic feeds for everyone.

HN itself will get banned under this criteria.

	▲	walthamstow 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I don't think so. Everyone sees the same feed. It's more like the New York Times homepage than it is Facebook.
	▲	techblueberry 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		The entirety of human knowledge is about defining rules by which we can categorize thing A vs thing B. I think we can determine the difference between Facebook and HN.
	▲	adrianN 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I’d celebrate the revival of the ca 2000‘s blogosphere.

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mitxela 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's already banned for everyone who doesn't want to send their ID documents to Persona.

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gjsman-1000 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Persona already has the ability to access your ID, or they would otherwise not be able to determine if the ID you sent was genuine.

	▲	mitxela 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Have you tried sending them a fake ID? As I understand, these companies are verifying the format of the ID, not the exact details on it. Including all the subtle format details like the checksum of the OCR section. If it looks good, they add it (and the site you were trying to access, and the timestamp) to their database.