I wish we, as a society, would label companies which cause more harm than good as such.

ElProlactin 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A large swath of American society today sees a movie like Scarface as an inspirational biopic, not a modern Shakespearean tragedy.

Lots of especially younger people see unbridled ambition and rule-breaking as a virtue. Everything is about making money and if you're not the one getting it, or worse, you're the person being victimized, you're dumb and weak.

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disqard 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> dumb and weak

Like, "losers and suckers"?

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watwut 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I dont know if I would blame young people as much. Those are values of the generation before them. Literally represented by over 40 years old like Vance, Musk and well, the whole conservative establishement.

Young people are more open in expressing it (like with Tate), but underlying ideas are not new.

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r_lee 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

isn't that what society rewards though? everyone is supposed to be an entrepreneur and have a side hustle

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ElProlactin 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Being enterprising has always been a virtue in the US, but historically, there have been limits to how far you would go to make a buck, and people that pushed past those limits would be scorned by the majority. So at the very least, people tried to pretend that they were honest and did "good business" even when they were shysters.

I'd argue it's different today. Social media in particular has convinced a whole generation of people that if you don't have a garage full of supercars by the age of 23, you're a loser, and that there's almost no activity too shameful to engage in publicly in pursuit of wealth.

	▲	lux-lux-lux 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		‘It’s different today.’ Buddy, the Me Decade was 50 years ago.

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Cytobit 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's exactly the problem. Any ideal/virtue can be violated as long as they are getting that bag.

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fuzzfactor 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well "Consumer Reports" already has its niche in product comparisons. As the name implies consumers are supposed to get the most out of their ratings.

How about "Producer Reports" where companies are evaluated on whether they actually produce anything of value first and foremost as a benchmark.

Completely separate from the financial data which is already well-covered elsewhere. Investors are already supposed to get the most out of the money angle.

But for any one product most people are neither consumers of the product nor investors in the company.

These are the vast majority who would benefit from better information on whether a company is worth having around, for everyone in general who is not an avid consumer nor investor.

That would probably be more helpful for "innocent bystanders" who want to better avoid being assimilated by forces they have no interest in but could end up quite costly anyway.