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blop 3 hours ago

I think the reviews should also include the social aspect of these filesystems...

There is and have been many promising and exciting FS to replace the old boring ones, but for storage you not only want to avoid technical issues but also maintainer(s) drama...

koverstreet 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why do people keep bringing up drama?

The community infighting has sucked, but that's a thing that matters primarily for maintainers.

I think most users just want something that works.

blop 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

drama matters because most users don't want to have their favourite FS randomly removed from the kernel unexpectedly after some OS update :)

That said I certainly hope that one day the technical advantage of bcachefs will be so overwhelming that maybe the decision to remove it will be overturned. And if big vendors make it their default FS the bus factor will disappear (even if unofficially you'd still be the sole maintainer, but no one cares about that in the enterprise world...)

throwaway85825 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't care about the drama, I just want to say thank you for your continued work to advance the state of the art in open file systems.

koverstreet 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Appreciate it :)

Skunkleton 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Related username?

To answer the original question, most people who care about their filesystem at all care about its stability. Not just "does it work now" but also "will it work and improve over time". Infighting puts the future at risk.

koverstreet 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It really does.

But you might want to check out the bus factor on btrfs too; when a maintainer says "but we've saved Facebook billions and billions of dollars!", calls for the other filesystem maintainer to be ejected from the community, then quits to join Anthropic a month later - that's not a vote of confidence.

I'd be very happy if people could just stop bringing up drama and us factors. We put it behind us a year ago, but it seems not everyone got the memo.

badgersnake 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Reiserfs was the OG drama fs

blop an hour ago | parent [-]

That's what I meant, it's always risky to rely on a single person for such an important subsystem as storage... I'm also very sad that bcachefs has been kicked out of the kernel, it is really a very promising FS.

So that leaves btrfs which always seemed complex and brittle to me (compared to zfs at least)