But do you still have enthusiasm for finding out about new language features or concepts? I'll do what it takes to get the job done, but the passion for it is totally gone.

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frje1400 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, as an example structured concurrency in Java (final release in Java 28 perhaps). I think that could totally change how we write concurrent code in that language.

I just upgraded a less important service to Java 27, a few days after its release (several nice features). It's cool how easy it is to upgrade nowadays.

That an agent writes most of the code doesn't mean anything to me here.

My examples are Java because that is the main language where I work.

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karmakurtisaani 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

Thanks for the perspective.

	▲	frje1400 31 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You're welcome. I now feel inspired to try to change your mind, if you don't mind. I would argue that "concepts" actually are more important than ever. Let's take my structured concurrency example. It doesn't matter here exactly what is, but if it ends up being as important as I think it will be, I likely want to write most concurrent code that way going forward. However, it will likely be years until agents go to it unless deliberately steered in that direction. And if I want to make agents write it, I need to review it, and if I'm going to review, I need to understand it. I think this is why I'm not pessimistic about the profession, it still feels like what I'm doing and learning matters.

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za3faran 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's a couple of languages I follow their roadmap and I find exciting, including Java and C#. I don't feel there's proper justification of writing backend services in something like python or ruby anymore, for example.

	▲	karmakurtisaani 10 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah, I also try to follow what's new. But it's more like "Ok, that's good I guess." Rather than "Cool! Looking forward to applying this in my next project!"

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tonyhart7 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

nothing stopping you to code manually

	▲	karmakurtisaani an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Nothing stopping me from doing a lot of things. But is there any point to it?