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nandakishor_ml 5 hours ago

This project was built on the exact research on jev architecture research one year ago

woggy 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't understand this sentence, can you try again please? Are you saying Laya was built on research done by the Jev team?

klibertp 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Jev was built using the same architecture Laya's author proposed[1] in March 2025. Laya is an open-source system based on that research from a year ago. Whether Jev is also based on the OP's materials or independently invented is hard to say.

[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.23303

water-drummer 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, OP thinks they independently discovered Jev's architecture a year ago and published a paper. I am not an expert but I don't think Typesafe has published Jev's architecture so OP's claims cannot be taken at face value.

cgio 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It’s the other way around for me. OP has published everything in the open, so I can take him at face value. A PR media release on the other hand, I can accept with some reservations. The objective and non-conspiratorial reading I could offer is, this is most probably two independent discoveries of the same idea, maybe with different implementation. I still think the Jev team should look at prior art before going so hard on the marketing.

cmrdporcupine 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Jev is only on people's mouths because they made friends with venture capitalists and used the publicity blowhorns that come with that.

Whereas the other guy went through the unglorious but formerly respectable path of publishing software and papers for other professionals to look at. A year ago.

We're in a bad place where the latter looks less reliable than the former.

(EDIT: I'm not saying the research here is in fact the same as what "Jev" is doing; and Jev is in fact more "product shaped." But I think it's important to temper the hype and back up and focus on the fact that this whole industry is built on research by both academics and enthusiasts ... first ... and gold rushes can often bulldoze over those people who are focused primarily on making-doing-researching instead of fundraising-hyping-promoting. That's not good.)

whizzter 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm reading your year old Reddit post and Typesafe's description, and while they probabably say that they can do what you do the main point is that it's different things really as far as I can tell?

Laya seems to be focused on sales/conversations?

Reading quickly about TypeSafe, it seems to be about creating _type-safe_ outputs from AI tools for downstream systems to consume, we actually have a system in production that's probably a glove-fit for that, it's for scanning receipts to be ingested into a system and we also have other systems in a sales-pipe that isn't too far off Laya but still sounds more pertient to TypeSafe.

You did a special case well, but just because they cover (perhaps badly) that case doesn't mean that it's the same thing.

nandakishor_ml an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I built a pypi for it called hallunox https://pypi.org/project/hallunox/