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azan_ 13 hours ago

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tomhow 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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nullorempty 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I never said I was russian or not ukranian.

But your attitude is exactly the problem - remember, people are all equal as per western democratic values.

And the way to solve the differences is by talking! And yes, I am ready to talk to russians about democracy as well as ukranians.

It looks like you are not, discarding them based on ethnic grounds.

azan_ 13 hours ago | parent [-]

> And the way to solve the differences is by talking!

Why did you attack Ukraine instead of talking then?

nullorempty 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Russia and USA had elaborate discussion on the precipice of war late in 2021, but also continued discussions since the very breakup of the soviet union and the voluntary dissolution of the Warsaw pact.

Negotiations didn't go anywhere unfortunately. And it's not Russia that takes the blame.

azan_ 12 hours ago | parent [-]

So talking works only when russia gets what it wants and if it doesn’t you can invade other country? It doesn’t sound like taking, more like extortion.

nullorempty 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Russia: stop pointing the gun at me

West: ... No

Negotiations don't work when stakes are this high.

I read an article in early 2000 that stipulated that EU and USA are borrowing so much money that eventually they will HAVE TO recoup through war, Conquering Russia.

They kept borrowing...

tavavex 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Russia: stop pointing the gun at me

Poor victim Russia. They were forced to start the war, really. Had they not embarked on their campaign of conquest and genocide, NATO would surely have invaded on the 25th of February and killed them all. Luckily, Russia showing their might by stalemating a war against a neighbor a third of their population has deterred evil NATO from directly invading, like what they were surely planning to do. It's evidenced by the absolutely nothing that NATO did towards Russia in the preceding decades, but if you stomp your foot enough about your neighbors freely joining an alliance explicitly designed to safeguard against Russian bloodthirstiness, then you can almost make yourself look like the victim. Almost. At least the Russians buy it, they've been printing the same shit in their media for over a decade now and they can't get enough of it.

nullorempty 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Russia has been criminally naive in its dealings with the West. Had they been more firm and realistic they would have never allowed the wall to fall and Warsaw pact to disband.

They have no choice now but to reassert themselves.

I hope we all survive or if it comes to it let the death be quick.

orwin 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> I read an article in early 2000 that stipulated that EU and USA are borrowing so much money that eventually they will HAVE TO recoup through war, Conquering Russia.

Lol. Not how money, nor borrowing as a nation-state works. Probably from a trader-adjascent idiot who thinks he understands econ 101 because his qwants makes him money. Macro-econ is probably the subject with the biggest dunning-kruger syndrome you can find, so I advise you to either read a lot (and I do mean a lot), catch up at least to the bachelor level and continue reading econ books (written by economists PhD, not wall street insiders that journalist claims are economists), or just avoid the field completely and never believe anything an 'economist' write or say on TV, if he/she isn't a PhD.

nullorempty 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Some syndrome here, for sure.